plugin bundle for logic 8

[Morph]

Hi all,
Im thinking about buying some plugins.
I have mostly been using the included plugins, but I got the gas.
Im not sure what criteria, but something musical :Confused:
not harsh, I can do that myself :lol:
I guess what I want is mainly eq and comp type stuff.
Would the emi plugins fit the bill?
They have a cheap deal at the moment.
any other ideas?
cheers, Morph

[otek]

Sonalksis and URS have seriously good EQ and compressor plugins.

I also like the Wave Arts Channel plugin, which contains EQ (up to ten bands, selectable types), two compressors, a gate/expander, a limiter and filters.


otek

[Ein Mangfaldig Kar]

There is a special for the Chandler plugins right now, that would be a good bang for the buck.

I'll also seccond the sonalksis plugs.

Ein
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[Ashermusic]

Buy yourself a UAD-2 card.

If not, Sonalksis and Sony Oxford (Sonnox) are good.

And I have not tried them because I do not need any more but some people aI respect are seriously in love with the Abbey Road Brilliance Pack.

[jord]

My main thing is still Izotope Ozone. These days, I use it for more than just a "mastering" type of plug-in.

jord

[otek]

My main thing is still Izotope Ozone. These days, I use it for more than just a "mastering" type of plug-in.

The Ozone is certainly a very useful plugin, and I love it, but to use a Slipperman-ism, it has a tendency to kill noobs on contact.

The reason is, it does a LOT to the sound. Almost all its processing is multiband. It has a certain "wow" factor which makes it really easy to get lost and over-process sounds. Plus, it is a DSP hog of cataclysmic proportions.

If all you want is EQ and compression, I would steer towards good, basic full-band plugins instead.


otek

[David Aurora]

I know I probably sound like a broken record.... but....

Airwindows makes some very cool shit. (http://www.airwindows.com/)

I swear I don't work for Chris :lol:

He just makes really cool plugins, and they are super cheap. And being one of our own board members here, it's good to look after our own. I mean seriously, the guy has a MAJOR crack addiction to support.....



(kidding :D )

[Dubnick]

Not a bundle per se, but the three best plug-in purchases I've ever made were:

1.) URS CSP
2.) Altiverb
3.) Stillwell Audio Rocket Compressor

I get more use out of those three plugs than any other third-party plug-ins I've ever bought.

[otek]

Airwindows makes some very cool shit.

Absolutely.

Some of the Airwindows plugins do things I haven't seen or heard anywhere else.


otek

[Ashermusic]

Absolutely.

Some of the Airwindows plugins do things I haven't seen or heard anywhere else.


otek


Then you need to get out more :)

[David Aurora]

Then you need to get out more :)

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh hang on, wait.... that actually wasn't funny. Nevermind.

[Ashermusic]

:Surprised:

[otek]

Then you need to get out more

Oh hang on, wait.... that actually wasn't funny.

Actually, coming from a guy who claims no knowledge of what MiLAR is in spite of it being the second most visited forum on this website, I do find it funny. :D

And please let me know what other plugins duplicate the functions of, say, the Airwindows Gatelope?


otek

[Ashermusic]

Actually, coming from a guy who claims no knowledge of what MiLAR is in spite of it being the second most visited forum on this website, I do find it funny. :D

And please let me know what other plugins duplicate the functions of, say, the Airwindows Gatelope?


otek

It was only a joke. Airwindows makes great stuff, I am sure.

And I freely acknowledge that guys like you know WAY more about this stuff than I do.

[otek]

:Surprised:

:lol:

[CaptainHook]

3.) Stillwell Audio Rocket Compressor


From my testing so far i'm quite liking the Stillwell stuff.
Although i prefer Major Tom over the Rocket compressor, very
nice stuff at a great price.

Think "Massey" type prices and demo policies. :Thumbsup:

[Morph]

hi all,
thanks for the advice.
When i said emi, I meant the Abbey rd plugins.
Anyone tried these? There is a deal on at the moment, all 3 bundles for 500 bucks.
Would it be worth buying an ilok to check them out?
The Stillwell stuff was interesting, I will try them out some more today, and try out the Airwindows stuff too.
cheers, Morph

[shhpeaceful]

From my testing so far i'm quite liking the Stillwell stuff.
Although i prefer Major Tom over the Rocket compressor, very
nice stuff at a great price.

Think "Massey" type prices and demo policies. :Thumbsup:

I love the major tom on bass guitar...so easy to use.

[vocalnick]

From my testing so far i'm quite liking the Stillwell stuff.
Although i prefer Major Tom over the Rocket compressor, very
nice stuff at a great price.

Think "Massey" type prices and demo policies. :Thumbsup:

Yup yup, I've been quite liking the "embryo" version of Major Tom that's been included in Reaper for a good while now. Haven't played with the VST/AU flavours as yet, but I understand they're a bit nicer.

[jord]

The Ozone is certainly a very useful plugin, and I love it, but to use a Slipperman-ism, it has a tendency to kill noobs on contact.

I could say that about DAW, or any "pro" based software, for that matter.

I can easily point to numerous threads in the MiLaR forum proving the above statement.

jord

[spence]

The Ozone is certainly a very useful plugin, and I love it, but to use a Slipperman-ism, it has a tendency to kill noobs on contact.

The reason is, it does a LOT to the sound. Almost all its processing is multiband. It has a certain "wow" factor which makes it really easy to get lost and over-process sounds. Plus, it is a DSP hog of cataclysmic proportions.

If all you want is EQ and compression, I would steer towards good, basic full-band plugins instead.


otek

Still kinda nooby here... Otek, this explains why I got so frustrated with not being able to get the sounds I wanted from what seems to be awesome (Izotope) plugins. What you mentioned is exactly what happened :Thumbsup:

I settled into the Ren EQ and Comp.

[RobS]

hi all,
thanks for the advice.
When i said emi, I meant the Abbey rd plugins.
Anyone tried these? There is a deal on at the moment, all 3 bundles for 500 bucks.
Would it be worth buying an ilok to check them out?
The Stillwell stuff was interesting, I will try them out some more today, and try out the Airwindows stuff too.
cheers, Morph

As someone suggested get a UAD2 Card Solo but if you can afford more good, and then use the bundled voucher to get all sorts of 'old school' and newer types of compressors, EQ, plate or what ever you feel like. Plus it will help you lay off your processors and transfer the power of the plugin processing to the card.

R

[jord]

Still kinda nooby here... Otek, this explains why I got so frustrated with not being able to get the sounds I wanted from what seems to be awesome (Izotope) plugins. What you mentioned is exactly what happened :Thumbsup:

I settled into the Ren EQ and Comp.

You do realize that Ozone comes with two important things:

1) Off buttons for almost every feature
2) PDF's on how to use it to get the sound you want

#1 is particularly important for the reason that just because you have all of those features, doesn't mean you have to use them all.

And just to rebut Otek's multiband line: you can turn that off and work with one single band as well.

:Twisted:

jord

[otek]

Still kinda nooby here... Otek, this explains why I got so frustrated with not being able to get the sounds I wanted from what seems to be awesome (Izotope) plugins.

I wasn't exactly claiming you cannot get sounds with them. On the contrary, there is probably very little you cannot do.

The problem is, when someone opens up the preset menu and flicks around (which is what I imagine happens most of the time), you quickly go from "ooh" to "aah" to "hey, that's different", and pretty soon you totally forgot what the sound was to begin with. These plugins really "transport" the sounds to a different place, fundamentally changing the dynamic and frequency response, and it's very easy to lose your footing. You have to be really judicious when working with them.

I settled into the Ren EQ and Comp.

The RenComp is a very useful compressor. There's nothing I wouldn't use it on.


otek

[otek]

1) Off buttons for almost every feature
2) PDF's on how to use it to get the sound you want

#1 is particularly important for the reason that just because you have all of those features, doesn't mean you have to use them all.

And just to rebut Otek's multiband line: you can turn that off and work with one single band as well.

Does any of the above sound like the typical restraint exercised by a n00b? :Roll eyes:


otek

[24bit441]

To the original poster, Morph: What exactly makes you think that spending hundreds of dollars on plugins will take the "harsh" out of your mixes? In my humble opinion, the plugins provided with logic are excellent and sound extremely musical when used properly. There is probably a greater reason (or 31 different greater reasons) than plugin quality that is contributing to harsh mixes. You could spend hundreds of dollars on room treatment or better front end equipment like mics, pre, converters and I personally guarantee you will be much more satisfied than if you dropped $500 on the latest magic saturated fart-pressor(tm). Learn to use the tools you have before deciding that you need new ones.

[jord]

Does any of the above sound like the typical restraint exercised by a n00b? :Roll eyes:

We both know that the answer is no. :D

And we also know that it is not an excuse not to learn about the tools they just bought. :Twisted:

jord