Ready for the Roast - New mixed tune

[IntelDoc]

All,
So this is my first post for a song on here so I figured why not. Good constructed feedback is perfect. This was sadly the last client to track in my studio before I move to Denver in a week. I am setting up a mix room in my place when I get out there so tweeks can happen. I am pretty happy with this song. We tracked drums awhile back, then did guitars, bass and vocals the other night. H is actually one of my first clients and I have been working with him for over 3 years now I guess. Mixed this one primarily in the box, but I stem out to a API setup for summing. I like the punch, there are a couple freqs that are fighting, so any thoughts, comments would be great. Production ideas. I took the damn hand drum out except for the end slow break. It is kinda sloppy, but we were on a time costraint. All and all he i fun to track and has developed alot from when he started with me.

SERENITY_V4 (http://tommy.tbrstudio.com/Serenity_V4.mp3)

Thanks in advance,

Doc

[kingkai]

Daddy Likes :Thumbsup:

Leave it the fuck alone!! :grin:



Peace - Out, Irv

[IntelDoc]

hahaha... thanks "daddy"

Really glad that you liked it and took the time to listen. This vlient has worked with me for awhile now. I am pretty happy with the over all mix. The floor tom sounds a little out to me, but that is about all?

Thanks again,

Doc

[Mixerman]

It sounds a bit overcompressed to me, and a bit heavy on the bottom end of the kik drum.

Just one comment, sloppy rhythm is okay, so long as the bass player is rock solid and simple in his approach. This bass player would have been musically castrated on my session.

Mixerman

[IntelDoc]

Yep! I agree on the bassist. He is young (19) and was all victor woote and shit. I was like "It is a pop tune dude" but whatever. The sad part about the client is that he has some ability, but gets guys who have limited ability or just finds guys that wanna play because they see him and see his live shows (pretty cool really) and want to tag along. Then it gets all congested and what not. He is used to being a solo artist so he naturally fills evey void possibly and smothers the tune. I have tried to help him open p some, but no dice.

I will check the compression too.

Thanks,

Doc

[dikledoux]

disclaimer:
If I'm such a friggin' songwriting genius, why am I posting on an internet forum about songwriting instead of drinkin' a hendrix cucumber martini amidst oiled hottie chicks next to the guitar-shaped pool at my "crib"?

I quote:
"lot n' dot skaya lot n' dote n' dote n' doe
lat n' dah yeah ayee-oh"

This kind of thing absolutely drives me fucking NUTS. That's not skat. It's masturbation. It's refusing to write a lyric that's worth listening to. It's not just a lack of ideas about what instrument ought to be in that part of the song - it's being so self-absorbed that one can't be bothered to self-edit.

Probably sell a million records.

As far as the arrangement on the song... The acoustic guitar part sounds like what a solo artist does when they're actually playing solo. That is - they never stop bangin' on the guitar because they're trying to get across the energy of an entire band to a small room of people who aren't paying enough attention to THEM. These cats get people to play their songs in bands, and the band is ALWAYS too loud and sounds like a garage band because the "artist" will NOT quit banging their guitar all the way through the set. So the rest of the band struggles to insert their ideas into the song to get some kinda satisfaction from playing the material in the first place, but they never listen to each other and the arrangement is basically "every man for himself". Then they'll bitch about not being able to hear their vocal.

Dude needs an editor.

Wish I could sing like him, though. But if I could, I'd sing actual words, not:
"lot n' dot skaya lot n' dote n' dote n' doe
lat n' dah yeah ayee-oh"

Please re-read the disclaimer at the top before you try to figure out where I live so you can beat my ass.

dik

[IntelDoc]

dik, or is it "dick" :lol: (kidding)

No harm done man. I agree with you. I have worked with him since he was 17. He has never had a formal lesson in his life and really gets into his stuff. I have told him for years that he needs to let the guitar breath, but he does not get it. He does play alot of solo gigs and that is where the beating comes into play. He has a huge jack johnson/john mayer influence and finds people to play with him. Are they the right people? Probably not seeing that I have tracked them all and know what type of players they are. The lead guy I had to tell to stop playing like a pussy and play. The scat thing? who knows, that was a new thing that he did for this tune. Not sure, but whatever. I agree though and like I said, he is getting better. I have his older stuff on my player on my myspace page. Scroll up and check it out and you will see what I mean about it. It was more before. He is not one for timing and that comes from his solo playing and lack of experience with a band. Maybe time will help. He is a good kid with a lot of energy and a very interesting life thus far. Always fun to track at least.

Thanks for the listen and the words. No harm done man. It is exactly what I have told him for awhile actually. I do what I can at least mixing wise. he needs a producer.

Doc