VSOP
February 28th, 2009, 09:22 AM
Hey all,
I was mixing a down and durrty rap mixtape today for a new client. they had 12 PT sessions that consisted of a stereo instrumental (That they had hijacked from major artists + that was distorted to boot as they were probably originally downloaded mp3zz) as well as maybe 4 or 5 tracks of vocals.. sometimes up to 15 tracks tho.
Anyway, one of the problems when doing theese kinda wacky things is that you only spend like 20 min on each song and Inevitable they sounds get better as the process goes on. Also vocal level consistancey can be hard to gauge moving this quickly across the array of distorted backing music tracks.
So my hair-brained Idea here is to try to make one UBER SESSION in logic that has ALL 12 songs in 1 session, with each song sectioned off into a folder. This way I could move back and forth very easily.
Since all teh songs were PT sessions, and I couldent trust that the punches were clean, i elected to make OMFs of each song without consolidating the audio files beforehand. This is something that I do on Almost EVERY Pt ession i port overot Logic and is never an issue.
What happened was that I imported song 1 an all was good. I beat mapped a tempo, balanced it all out and packed a folder.
GREAT!
Imported song 2.
AS it always does it retains the timing info from the PT Session and seated the files where they were on timeline. In the case the instrental was starting at the top of the session, so now song 2 is parked at Bar 1, directly below the folder for song 1.
GREAT!
I muted the folder for song 1 and hit play on song 2.
DISASTER.
as the jamoke who recorded all this did not bother to name his tracks b4 he recorded them, EVERY song has a bunch of files called "Audio 1" and "Audio 2".
Logic replaced the content of the file referred to in song 2 to as "Audio 1" with the content of the file from song 1 referred to as "Audio 1" but the region, of course, retained it position on the grid from song 2. In effect what happened was the music starts playing but where song 2's verse 1 should be playing, is now a 2nd copy of songs 1's chorus vocal..
Very Confusing in the moment.
To get around it in the session I had to go into the region bin as sliglty rename all the audio files from song 1 by adding an random charicter to them, such as xx or qqq for each song so when I imported in the next set of "Audio 1"s they were unique.
Any Idea on how this could have all been avoided?
Without consolidating and naming the files in PT?
thanks
MH
I was mixing a down and durrty rap mixtape today for a new client. they had 12 PT sessions that consisted of a stereo instrumental (That they had hijacked from major artists + that was distorted to boot as they were probably originally downloaded mp3zz) as well as maybe 4 or 5 tracks of vocals.. sometimes up to 15 tracks tho.
Anyway, one of the problems when doing theese kinda wacky things is that you only spend like 20 min on each song and Inevitable they sounds get better as the process goes on. Also vocal level consistancey can be hard to gauge moving this quickly across the array of distorted backing music tracks.
So my hair-brained Idea here is to try to make one UBER SESSION in logic that has ALL 12 songs in 1 session, with each song sectioned off into a folder. This way I could move back and forth very easily.
Since all teh songs were PT sessions, and I couldent trust that the punches were clean, i elected to make OMFs of each song without consolidating the audio files beforehand. This is something that I do on Almost EVERY Pt ession i port overot Logic and is never an issue.
What happened was that I imported song 1 an all was good. I beat mapped a tempo, balanced it all out and packed a folder.
GREAT!
Imported song 2.
AS it always does it retains the timing info from the PT Session and seated the files where they were on timeline. In the case the instrental was starting at the top of the session, so now song 2 is parked at Bar 1, directly below the folder for song 1.
GREAT!
I muted the folder for song 1 and hit play on song 2.
DISASTER.
as the jamoke who recorded all this did not bother to name his tracks b4 he recorded them, EVERY song has a bunch of files called "Audio 1" and "Audio 2".
Logic replaced the content of the file referred to in song 2 to as "Audio 1" with the content of the file from song 1 referred to as "Audio 1" but the region, of course, retained it position on the grid from song 2. In effect what happened was the music starts playing but where song 2's verse 1 should be playing, is now a 2nd copy of songs 1's chorus vocal..
Very Confusing in the moment.
To get around it in the session I had to go into the region bin as sliglty rename all the audio files from song 1 by adding an random charicter to them, such as xx or qqq for each song so when I imported in the next set of "Audio 1"s they were unique.
Any Idea on how this could have all been avoided?
Without consolidating and naming the files in PT?
thanks
MH