Circus Punk Disco Jam

[beder]

Let me know what you guys think of the mix, the production, the whole deal. thanks, and I hope you enjoy the tune! my friend Andy and I did it over the summer. He's on lead vox and guitar and the weird track we did in the background.

[beder]

WELL. BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME I GUESS.

[subvocal]

WELL. BEDER LUCK NEXT TIME I GUESS.

has it been 5 minutes already?

I had a song posted here for critique for 7 MONTHS once
and finally I got one response.














Now i am signed to a major record label!


















I make millions of dollars!




















I fly all over the world to play music for my envious fans!























I do all the best drugs and I know all the best people!






















I have a nice car!






















Great big house!






















Illegitimate children!























My head is so fucking large that some mornings I can't find my fucking ears to clean the shit out of them!




















I just finished my 4th try in rehab!






















Now I am all alone and no body loves me!




















Now I hang out here and try to advise others to not allow people to hear their incredible songs cause it just leads down the road to pain and suffering!




















I cant remember why I am here typing.........

[beder]

there's a lot of middle-aged rock stars on this site. :Coolio:

[EyreSpace]

There are a lot of middle aged rock stars on this site... and they have years of experience. Many work full time in pro-audio.

Pianos and bass notes on the guitar are quite muddy. Percussion and effects are quite bright. Panning choices are circa 1965.

It's good to be specific in the kind of feedback your soliciting. I don't like the mix or production, but hey, I don't like Frank Zappa's sense of humour either. Frank was a composer though, he wrote parts that he wanted people to actually play. I'm not getting your compositional sense.

I'm in the midst of mixing an entire album featuring nonsensical babbling and extraneous guitar noises on each song. The project was quite interesting until those parts were added. Now I just don't "get" it.

Where are these guys going to market this stuff? And if there's no marketing plan, wtf is the point?

At least for the project I'm currently saddled with, the point seems to be "lets burn some herb and make stupid noises in the microphone while each other is singing" Then it's "lets burn some more herb and laugh as background vocals."

I don't smoke, is that why I don't get it?

[dikledoux]

Hey Beder - -

I'd have jumped in with my opionated middle-aged effort except the place I can listen to this stuff best is the machine that doesn't have the Mp4 codec and I'm always reluctant to screw with a machine that's working as well as this one.

That being said, I'll back up EyreSpace's comment on the incredible level of expertise and experience present in people here (disclaimer: I'm not talking about me). I did check out the MySpace links you had on the other post and it's apparent that you're competent, talented and apparently busy - so those are all good things. But (except for the music of Chief) the material is all pretty quirky and so isn't going to appeal to a wide range of people. Thus you get the non-reaction that seems to be the source of your disappointment.

WRT your material, the stuff is all interesting (I quite enjoyed skycycle) but it all begs for some kind of context to live in. None of it stands on its own, but (for instance) if I heard any of these pieces in a movie soundtrack they'd be very evocative and it sounds like you have a kind of cinematic bent in your writing. Maybe you should be teaming up with film people? Your own categorization of your material includes "comedy" but the music isn't funny. Whimsical? Maybe. Maybe. But don't confuse comedy with whimsy. Carl Stalling is funny. You're not.

In the meantime - for your music to stand on it's own there's at least one huge thing missing. That's the production value. Your "soundscapes" are going to have to sound so friggin' gorgeous and rich that people who are open to this kind of material will be sucked in just for the SOUND of the thing. Right now they sound like they were cheaply done - LoFi is NOT your friend here. Especially not HERE where everyone involved is working their asses off to achieve sonic perfection all the time. These folks are obsessed with it so you may want to bear that in mind when you look for feedback.

And when you ask for feedback - have an idea of what kind of information YOU need. Twice now, you've asked people for opinions (and don't confuse opinions with critique) and then been sorta pissy about the opinions. If you asked some specific questions, you'd likely get useful ANSWERS rather than just general opinions.

Hope that helps,

dik

[ajcamlet]

has it been 5 minutes already?

I had a song posted here for critique for 7 MONTHS once
and finally I got one response.





Now i am signed to a major record label!

I make millions of dollars!

I fly all over the world to play music for my envious fans!
I do all the best drugs and I know all the best people!


I have a nice car!


Great big house!

Illegitimate children!


My head is so fucking large that some mornings I can't find my fucking ears to clean the shit out of them!

I just finished my 4th try in rehab!


Now I am all alone and no body loves me!

Now I hang out here and try to advise others to not allow people to hear their incredible songs cause it just leads down the road to pain and suffering!

I cant remember why I am here typing.........

Everyone, Please welcome......MR. SCOTT STORCH!!!!:lol:

[beder]

Dik and EyreSpace,
You guys are being very helpful. I really appreciate what you guys are saying. You're very poignant and my biggest interest is combining my music with film and writing music for films. I think what my problem is, in a nut shell, is that I'm still maturing as a musician and I don't really have much of an idea of what I want to do, and so much contemporary sucks ass. Half of the music I make is just destructive, nonsensical, jabber that knowone would want to listen to. My production [I]is[I] pretty lo-fi. I have an old version of Cubase, no outboard gear(at least when I'm not using Chief's equip.), mostly 57s, but most imporantly I have a long way to go with production/mixing. Thanks for the reminder. This isn't to say that I'm loosing confidence, but that you guys helped me become aware of the elements I lack and posses.
Anyway, I could go on and on talking about your compliments but I'll just let you know I really appreciate and agree with them!
THanks,


-Brendan Eder

[subvocal]

Everyone, Please welcome......MR. SCOTT STORCH!!!!:lol:

thank you very much. Its great to be a part of this wonderful and informative forum. (middle age rules)

For more info on ME please click the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cQnduBOKzc

(brenden, i sense a quiet greatness about you - i hope to be working with you very soon)

Scott

[Unfcknblvbl]

Everyone, Please welcome......MR. SCOTT STORCH!!!!:lol:

I thought it was DiamondDave...

[beder]

thank you Scott. Working with me soon eh?
Sounds good.

-Brendan
myspace.com/privateelectric :D

[subvocal]

thank you Scott. Working with me soon eh?
Sounds good.

-Brendan
myspace.com/privateelectric :D

dude
you've put up with enough of me so I will offer a sincere critique now (not that I have much to offer)

Very creative stuff. Here in my little monitoring space all sounds pretty tight. I actually like soundscape stuff. You have an obvious talent. I won't comment on the actuall piece because to me, it's so very subjective anyway but it sounds pretty well recorded here in middle age rocker land.

cheers

SV