Our version of the Scarlet Letter (posters who don't follow directions)!

[Aardvark]

...I'll pm Eshaun, after I speak with her.



Er...Shaun is a guy.


Hehehehehe


:lol: :lol:


Cheers,
RetardVArk

[Jason Phair]

ClickTrack

Trumpet - Adequate-to-Skilled when redone by Aardvark



BULLSHIT!!!

Your trumpet playing on the CAPE tunes I've heard has easily been some of my favourite trumpeteering I've ever heard (and I've heard quite a bit of it, thank you)

[Aardvark]

BULLSHIT!!!

Your trumpet playing on the CAPE tunes I've heard has easily been some of my favourite trumpeteering I've ever heard (and I've heard quite a bit of it, thank you)

Ahhhh...hehehehe...there are things you surely don't know.

:Twisted: :Twisted:


Cheers,
Aardvark

[clicktrack]

Ahhhh...hehehehe...there are things you surely don't know.

:Twisted: :Twisted:


Cheers,
Aardvark

And hence,

"Erased and Redone by Aardvark"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[5down1up]

Dont know if its cool posting in here, but i cant resist :Twisted:

booooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh ... so many freaks :icon_eek:

THIS IS DA SHIT !!!

[dwoz]

Mike Sutherland
Mixing: Adequate (Mixerman's apprentice)

Well, THANK YOUR PERSONAL GOD that you're not his concubine. If that were the case, we'd have to pretend to like you.


:-)

good show, get that post count up, you slacker!!!!


dwoz

[TSTW]

Lead vocals / Backing vocals: Gifted



Jedi Anna, Jedi!

Yoda would be proud.

[Tim Halligan]

Yay!

:D :D :D :D :D

Jenbeast is back!!!

Cheers,
Tim

[dikledoux]

...that Swedish stuff played on the bloated goat with flutes jammed in it. Whats that called??
Flutengoatenjammisk?

[PSN Big Al]

Flutengoatenjammisk?

ROFL :lol:

I heard that in a PDQ Bach tune once.


.

[volthause]

that Swedish stuff played on the bloated goat with flutes jammed in it. Whats that called??

Fagpipes.

[Spock]

Fagpipes.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where do I send the bill for a new laptop.

[PSN Big Al]

P.S. I was referred here by Mr. Dye on the PSN.

Hey! Glad to see you hear Scogini. :grin:

[Tim Halligan]

Perth, Australia



Oh no... :Roll eyes:

Another one... :Uh oh:

Look out!

We're taking over... :lol:



Cheers,
Tim

[seagate]

Oh no... :Roll eyes:

Another one... :Uh oh:

Look out!

We're taking over... :lol:


God help us, it's the Sandgropers...


:icon_eek:

[dnafe]

Doesn't Scogini's avatar look suspiciously familiar?

Could it be?


Na, no way

:grin:

[Simon]

God help us, it's the Sandgropers...


:icon_eek:

That's right. And a Happy West Coast Eagles New Year to you too!:very happy:

[E. Shaun]

Hi folks...

Just a very friendly, unobtrusive, completely polite and Canuck-like request for you to only post sign-ups on this thread.

Otherwise, I might wind up putting some of you as backup accordion on Team Klezmer.

Thanks. :)

[seagate]

That's right. And a Happy West Coast Eagles New Year to you too!:very happy:

http://www.msc.id.au/private/tmp/eek.gif

[Charles Dye]

Hi.

I can play drums, mix, and sing.

Badly.

SM.

Awesome!

We've been needing someone to balance out all the maestros.

[Mixerman]

Awesome!

We've been needing someone to balance out all the maestros.

Slippy, you're going to have to beat Charles' ass when you see him. He keeps stealing your thunder, Dude.

Good one, Charles!

Now STOP POSTING ON THIS FUCKING THREAD UNLESS YOU'RE SIGNING UP!!!!!!!

Or EShaun is gonna to get riled. And rightly so, you fucking antidisestblishmentarianistic cunts.

Mixerman

[Bryson]

antidisestblishmentarianistic

Hey......That's even longer!




Yeah, I know...That's what she said.

[IntelDoc]

"antidisestblishmentarianistic"

Damn Mixerman, is that a word? :D

[Bling Crosby]

my name is Bling
i write and sing
but i dont play no shit

i grab a bit
sample it
and croon rap is my thing.



Bling it on!

[Charles Dye]

From CAPE Thread (placed here cuz I'm an IDIOT):

I'm sorry but I have to change my singing skills from skilled to gifted... :Coolio:

Hmm, I thought I should be able to edit my previous post but couldn't find an edit button?!

what, ya took vox lessons since ya signed up? :)



Post E Shaun Scolding EDIT:

I knew teacher was gonna show up any minute + spank my @ss!



OUCH!!

[E. Shaun]

Commentary is strictly verboten, you antidisestablishmentarian &*$@!

[otek]

what, ya took vox lessons since ya signed up? :)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's that modest Swedish attitude methinks.

[BaldByChoice]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's that modest Swedish attitude methinks.

That's right! :lol:

[Fulcrum]

Or maybe it's something in the Karlstad water supply?

Yes, I noticed your geo.

[Charles Dye]

What skillful pruning, M!

[Charles Dye]

So, to keep this thread on topic...


Apparently we're discussing modesty, or the lack thereof, of various cultures + nationalities.

Please post your views on this highly controversial subject w/ examples to demonstrate your view.

I'll start...


Americans.

Uhh... we don't have a clue what modesty is. Example: any Texan.

[Scratchy Potts]

So, to keep this thread on topic...


Apparently we're discussing modesty, or the lack thereof, of various cultures + nationalities.

Please post your views on this highly controversial subject w/ examples to demonstrate your view.

I'll start...


Americans.

Uhh... we don't have a clue what modesty is. Example: any Texan.


:icon_eek: You have a culture??

[dwoz]

:icon_eek: You have a culture??


"melting pot" is just a synonym for "petri dish".


dwoz

[Charles Dye]

Culture?! Waaaaaaayyyyyy OT.

Dood, u gotta visit the culture forum (http://womb.mixerman.net/forumdisplay.php?f=2) to discuss THAT.

[Jason Phair]

I must protest Charles!

Americans are way more modest than anyone else on the planet ever has been. Our superior culture and upbringing include a superior, better sense of modesty, and we're going to make sure everyone else is just as modest as us whether they like it or not! :Twisted:

[CloseToTheEdge]

I've heard that BBQ is the culture in Texas.

Er..., that and capital punishment. yikes.

<drool>
Mmmm, Angelos BBQ...
</drool>

[lebouche]

I've heard that BBQ is the culture in Texas.

Er..., that and capital punishment. yikes.

<drool>
Mmmm, Angelos BBQ...
</drool>

Both types of Texan Roast!

[Sketchy McNads]

Both types of Texan Roast!

:lol:

We support your war of terror!

[dwoz]

Guiding this somewhat back on-topic...



I think most of the "interesting" self-assessments are not due to the chutzpah, but more due to the "BigFish-SmallPond" (BFSP) syndrome.


These guys are the heroes and playmakers in their own little sandboxes, and naturally they think they're swinging some big pipe.


Like, for instance, when I was growing up. I realized early-on, that I was the best bassist in my neighborhood. Soon, I realized I was the best bassist in town. Of the three of us, I was clearly head-and-shoulders over those guys. Eventually, I came to believe that I was the best bassist in New Hampshire. There was more than a little accuracy to that.

However, short of the arctic, there are precious few places on earth where the density of competent bassists per capita was lower, than in NH.

When I got to the city, I saw Jaco play, and very quickly experienced that "black hole event horizon" effect...suddenly realizing that, plastic-fantastic as I was, I was not fit to shovel the MANURE of some of these cats.

oh, well. I'm still the best bassist in town.


dwoz

[Carlo]

Guiding this somewhat back on-topic...



oh, well. I'm still the best bassist in town.


dwoz

wow...you saw Jaco??

[malice]

wow...you saw Jaco??

That's nothing :D

I played on one of his bass. The one that he plays with Joni mitchell in "Shadows and Light" I think.

malice

[Goes211]

That's nothing :D

I played on one of his bass. The one that he plays with Joni mitchell in "Shadows and Light" I think.

malice

Yup. Malice gave that one up and plays mine now.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I played Sting's Police bass (stripped Fender P)

Who played Bootsy's bass is what I want to know.

[nobby]

Guiding this somewhat back on-topic...

I think most of the "interesting" self-assessments are not due to the chutzpah, but more due to the "BigFish-SmallPond" (BFSP) syndrome.

These guys are the heroes and playmakers in their own little sandboxes, and naturally they think they're swinging some big pipe.

Like, for instance, when I was growing up. I realized early-on, that I was the best bassist in my neighborhood. Soon, I realized I was the best bassist in town. Of the three of us, I was clearly head-and-shoulders over those guys. Eventually, I came to believe that I was the best bassist in New Hampshire. There was more than a little accuracy to that.


At this point in your post I was already thinking of Pastorius, Clarke, etc.

I've been thinking, for quite some time, that the whole concept of people ranking themselves as Jedi, gifted, maestro, virtuoso, or whatever (or having some other clueless fuckwit doing the ranking) would be funny if nobody took it seriously.

I haven't visited the signups for quite a while, but I think I recall reading Carlo calling himself an "OK singer".

If Carlo is an "OK singer", then...

"Is someone very slowly running over a crate containing a hound dog, several rats, an invasion of the body snatchers alien, and a few seagulls with a rusty bulldozer, or is that nobby singing"* :lol:





* except that if that were the case I'd need a de-esser ;-)

[Mikebuzz]

Man E-Shaun your gonna have 25 teams !!!!!!!!!!! to sort out CHIT !!!

LAter
Buzz

[nobby]

The point I'm making, is that there are people who call themselves gifted, geniuses, or whatever who don't have sufficient backround to judge themselves or others, and don't realize where they stand.

For example, Ive been playing guitar for a few decades, and I think I'm talented, but I'm not ignorant enough to call myself gifted, or whatever. Wes Montgomery, Jimi Hendrix, Andres Segovia, etc ad infinitum. The same goes for every instrument.

One need go no further than this website to see (hear) what I'm talking about. Take a bow, FredSanford. (http://womb.mixerman.net/showpost.php?p=17326&postcount=48)

[E. Shaun]

You make a valid point, Nobby, and I strongly considered having a "scale of 1-10" system or something...but honestly, no matter WHAT scale is used, the same problem exists. I'm aware that it's not even close to being perfect, nor does the inherent subjectivity of self-rating make anything resembling perfection possible. I take all of this into account when I'm doing team selections, and a lot of it is based on my own perception of one's relative talents as well. It's the nature of the beast.

Fortunately, the results of past CAPEs point largely towards the vast amounts of talent we have in our community, regardless of how people rank themselves, and regardless of my perception of those rankings. The end results and the team chemistry is what matters the most, and I think that's been achieved on a lot more teams than it hasn't.

[nobby]

the results of past CAPEs point largely towards the vast amounts of talent we have in our community

Among other things :lol:

Seriously, Shaun, I appreciate all the work you put into making the CaPEs happen. I know it can't be easy.

[lebouche]

You make a valid point, Nobby, and I strongly considered having a "scale of 1-10" system or something...but honestly, no matter WHAT scale is used, the same problem exists. I'm aware that it's not even close to being perfect, nor does the inherent subjectivity of self-rating make anything resembling perfection possible.

Yo I'm not invoived with cape cos I'm too busy trying to hold my world together to commit to it...but maybe you should all sign up to sites like these and post your scores for cape. They could prob use a few more judges too.

e.g.

Rate my singing http://singing.eblah.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=,c=Ratings

or maybe we could do a thread..and score each others playing.
:grin:

[dwoz]

wow...you saw Jaco??


There's lots of stories. I remember one day, at Berklee, when Jaco was in town. This was near his end, well into his downward slide.

Berklee School of Music always has a large number of ensembles playing, in practice rooms, ensemble rooms, class ensembles, what have you, at any given moment during the day.

So, Jaco comes in, on a day when he CLEARLY needed to be "on" his meds, but wasn't. He wandered from ensemble to ensemble, grabbing "whatever" instrument from its utterly shocked and amazed player, and proceeded to blow/rip/shred.

Unfortunately, at this point in his life, he was really sucking ass...just spewing out these meandering 'greatest licks' smashups that had nothing to do with anything, no real attempt or intention to play WITH the other guys in the room. But of course, he was The Jaco, and nobody was interested in stopping him.

It was actually a very sad situation. The entire school was actually sort of 'somber' afterwards, like everyone had the feeling you get when you speak with an advanced alzheimer's sufferer...

But the FIRST time I saw him play, he literally changed my life.

dwoz

[vocalnick]

The point I'm making, is that there are people who call themselves gifted, geniuses, or whatever who don't have sufficient backround to judge themselves or others, and don't realize where they stand.

For example, Ive been playing guitar for a few decades, and I think I'm talented, but I'm not ignorant enough to call myself gifted, or whatever. Wes Montgomery, Jimi Hendrix, Andres Segovia, etc ad infinitum. The same goes for every instrument.

Fair comment, I suppose, but what bar are we setting ourselves against? In the primer, "gifted" is defined as "You are good at it, you know it and all your friends will tell you the same". From hearing previous CAPEs, I think there are a lot of folks in here who belong squarely in that ranking.

Of course if you start waving Jaco or Hendrix around, it's going to show things in a new light, but I don't see there's any shame in acknowledging the results of your own hard work.

I listed myself as a "gifted" singer, with a leaning to maestro this time around... which was probably pushing the line a little bit. But then I got plenty of kudos from people at the Marsh based on Team Progression, so I decided that's about where I'd sit. Yeah ok, it raised my humility-flag a bit, but at the same time I've worked hard to be the vocalist I am today... *shrug*

It's always hard to discuss this stuff without either sounding egomaniacal or falsely modest. Tricky... Based on last year, I'd be inclined to say that there's too much humility, rather than not enough.

Addendum: Just a thought... Once your credentials are established, it's pretty easy to display modesty when everyone knows you're good at it already. ;)

[E. Shaun]

I agree with you there, Groovr.

Incidentally, one of the [many] helpful things Tammikuu imparted to me as a result of her research is that there's really no good way to rate oneself, or one another. It's totally subjective, and always will be, like I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread. Perhaps by CAPE VI, a more definitive and conclusive criteria can be hammered out...but then I have to wonder if that's really necessary, given that the process is largely working as is. I'm too close to it to be objective about it, so...you tell me.

I DO know that I viewed myself as a borderline "gifted" keyboard player in my initial sign up post this year...but when I saw Fulcrum, who I personally think is the best keyboardist I know of from past CAPEs (again, this is totally subjective...and kinda underlines my point about such things) list himself as merely Gifted, I was taken a bit aback. Relatively speaking, I'm MAYBE Skilled when compared to a Gifted Fulcrum. But then again, I have no idea who could possibly be a Maestro if Fulcrum is merely Gifted...

Whatever the case may be, talent level is only about 1/3 of what is taken into consideration when doing team selections... Like Goes and Ola say in their CAPE Primer, attitude and personality are much more important for various reasons. Indeed...I bet if I was judicious enough, a team of "Adequate" folks could be created that rivals the best team of mixed Skilleds, Gifteds and Maestros.

Maybe next time. :Wink:

[Halsu]

Fair comment, I suppose, but what bar are we setting ourselves against? In the primer, "gifted" is defined as "You are good at it, you know it and all your friends will tell you the same". From hearing previous CAPEs, I think there are a lot of folks in here who belong squarely in that ranking.

Well, if the primer was to be taken literally, i guess i'd need to do "Swedes" too, and upgrade more or less all my rankings by at least one notch... I'm pretty good in my little pond ,-)

I tried to estimate my skills against what the average skill level in the past CAPE:s seems to be - which is much better than the average skill level in my smallish "real life" circles.

Here's how i thought about these:

Adequate = "I could have done something that is vaguely similar to these but probably not nearly as good"

Skilled = "I think i could have done something that's good enough for these"

Gifted = "I could have done better, hell yeah!"

Maestro = "I reallly should teach these guys some basic lessons about how to make music - they suck"

[Carlo]

Here's how i thought about these:

Adequate = "I could have done something that is vaguely similar to these but probably not nearly as good"

Skilled = "I think i could have done something that's good enough for these"

Gifted = "I could have done better, hell yeah!"

Maestro = "I reallly should teach these guys some basic lessons about how to make music - they suck"

Burn these in stone!

[Carlo]

Indeed...I bet if I was judicious enough, a team of "Adequate" folks could be created that rivals the best team of mixed Skilleds, Gifteds and Maestros.

Maybe next time. :Wink:

then add this