Kenny Gioia's PT Tutorial Vidz

[Kenny Gioia]

That's right.

I have a whole group of Pro Tools Video Tutorials available and in the works.

The best part…

They're free. Well some of them are.

They're available, right now.

Get them here! (http://www.grooveboxmusic.com/store/training-videos/pro-tools-tips-and-tricks.html)

Feel free to leave comments, suggestions and requests for further videos in this thread.

Thanks.

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Barish was kind enuff to provide a mirror link for the videos for those of you far, far away from the USA.

Thanks Barish.

[Charles Dye]

Kenny, this is really great!!

HUGE :Thumbsup: !!

[CaptainHook]

Nice Kenny..
I've never actually looked at collection mode.
I just highlight the tracks i want to use as triggers and
analyze them all, then go through and check for mis-triggers
or missing ones.

This method makes the process more simple i think.
I'll have to try it.

I also didn't know about "promoting" triggers!

Nice one! :)

[ryst]

Thanks Kenny!

[EyreSpace]

Fantastic! Thank you!

[Goes211]

:Thumbsup:

Great job !

[PSN Big Al]

Sweet! Nice of you to do this.

May I also add...cool! :Coolio:

[Nerdyrocker]

Great Video!! Thanks a lot.
I have some questions though. I am curious what most of you consider the workflow for using Beat Detective.
Do you always BD the whole song from beginning to end or just sections. If the drummer was pretty far off the click, what do you recommend?

Should I just make the first selection (say the intro of the song), BD that, move on the the verse, then the chorus, etc?
I am just trying to figure out the best way to start. When you hit capture selection the first time, it usually does not match up with the bars and beats of the session. What about the song start marker? If it is set to the default (120 bpm) and I BD my first section of the song, hitting conform will quantize it to 120. Do you use Identify Beat to get the temp first and then separate and conform?

How about some workflow pointers?

[Kenny Gioia]

Do you always BD the whole song from beginning to end or just sections.

I always work in sections. This way, if you mess up, you don't have to redo the whole song.

Also different sections may need to be treated differently. Riding on the toms in the pre-chorus usually changes how I use BD.

If the drummer was pretty far off the click, what do you recommend?

Smart ass answer aside, each situation is different.

I once recorded a drummer who demanded that the click be set to 210BPM with no accent. That's tough to follow IMHO.

After careful analysis, I realized he was actually playing the song at 180BPM and was ignoring that ridiculous click.

So I BDed him at 180BPM. Every few bars I would grab from the Kick to the end of the song and move it to the nearest bar.

It was a PITA but it was required. Manually moving things closer to the click can help BD a lot so it doesn't mis-identify the triggers.

And sometimes you need to double-click a trigger (not mentioned in the video) and label where that region needs to go.

In the video I'm using a fairly slow and simple beat. Most modern rock has much faster tempos and more hits in each bar, making it that much easier for BD to make mistakes.

When you hit capture selection the first time, it usually does not match up with the bars and beats of the session.

I'm not sure why this isn't working for you. Sometimes meter changes confuse BD. It's best to stay in one meter when using BD.

If it is set to the default (120 bpm) and I BD my first section of the song, hitting conform will quantize it to 120. Do you use Identify Beat to get the temp first and then separate and conform?

Is your drummer not playing to a click?

[robmacki]

Excellent // can't wait for more!
Like sitting in the room with ya.

[PSN Big Al]

Excellent // can't wait for more!
Like sitting in the room with ya.

"Like, don't push the guy, eh?"

- Bob & Doug McKenzie discussing future project possibilites
with Geddy Lee after finishing "Take Off!" :grin:


.

[5down1up]

N.I.C.E :Thumbsup:

& thank you

[Barish]

Very good of you, Kenny.

Applauded and appreciated.

Thanks.

B.


By the way, the server it is on is a bit slow for downloads for this part of the world. Would you like me to mirror it for a faster download for the folks' convenience?

[Kenny Gioia]

By the way, the server it is on is a bit slow for downloads for this part of the world. Would you like me to mirror it for a faster download for the folks' convenience?

That would be very nice of you thanks.

Just please put the link in this thread and nowhere else.

Thanks.

[Nerdyrocker]

"I always work in sections. This way, if you mess up, you don't have to redo the whole song."
---Do you do the sections in order? Would that not be the easiest and probably most accurate way to go?

"So I BDed him at 180BPM. Every few bars I would grab from the Kick to the end of the song and move it to the nearest bar."
---What was the first step here? Once you knew the tempo, did you just move the Song Start marker to the first downbeat of the tune and get going?

"I'm not sure why this isn't working for you. Sometimes meter changes confuse BD. It's best to stay in one meter when using BD."
---I got the meter change part. I guess I am referring to sessions that are not properly setup with a song start and a rough tempo/meter map. I think my point was, just hitting capture selection will do just that, it may not be right according to what you are doing, but it will take what is selected on the timeline and place it in the selection boxes. I assume you properly set the song start marker first with a proper tempo.

"Is your drummer not playing to a click?"
---I always get them to try. Sometimes, they cant. That makes it a lot more fun.

[lebouche]

Cool! Thanks Kenny...








(:Confused: Your picture makes me want to stroke you)

[lebouche]

shit...please never change your avatar..

[lebouche]

Quick question....you dont use this on the overheads in the video..what do you do about those seing as they are prob picking up to much to analyse..also I didnt see a HH. Does it all sound ok having the OVHDS out of sync with the other parts?
I'm thinking you just needed to show us how to do it on a few of the parts but Ovhds would be the difficult one I would think.
Heyyylllpp?:Confused:
Thank you ...great video.






I think I'm going to move back to protools.

[Barish]

That would be very nice of you thanks.

Just please put the link in this thread and nowhere else.

Thanks.

Sure. No problem.

Mirror No longer available.

Thanks for the valuable input again, it's pretty idiotproof, very nicely done. I'll divert people to this thread.

B.

[CaptainHook]

Quick question....you dont use this on the overheads in the video..what do you do about those seing as they are prob picking up to much to analyse..also I didnt see a HH. Does it all sound ok having the OVHDS out of sync with the other parts?

Kenny made a group for ALL of the drum tracks at the start of
the vid. You're right in that he didn't use the OH's or Rooms as
TRIGGERS, but he did select all the drum tracks using his
group once he had 'collected' all his triggers from the kick, snare etc.

All the drums tracks were then separated and conformed together.

I personally do the same thing if the drummer is crash-riding
the cymbals in say a chorus.

But in a section where they're playing a closed hat, or ride,
and i've 'spot-miked' it so have it on its own track, i will
include the track for triggering.

But in general the OH's and Rooms are not analyzed for triggering..

[lebouche]

Gotcha thanks Capn.

Barish
The emphasis on 'pretty' idiot proof... I'm n ugly one!:Cry:

[CaptainHook]

Gotcha thanks Capn.

Barish
The emphasis on 'pretty' idiot proof... I'm n ugly one!:Cry:

No worries.
Dont be hard on yourself. BT can take a bit of time before you
get to learn the 'quirks' and what it's good at doing, and what
it's not. Much like ottotune.
And as kenny just showed me, you can always learn more.

[Barish]

Barish
The emphasis on 'pretty' idiot proof... I'm n ugly one!:Cry:

No worries mate, I was actually meaning myself when I said that.

"Hmmmm... if I could even get it, then it must be pretty easy then..."

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

---Do you do the sections in order? Would that not be the easiest and probably most accurate way to go?

Yes.


---What was the first step here? Once you knew the tempo, did you just move the Song Start marker to the first downbeat of the tune and get going?

I'm not sure what you mean by "Song Start Marker"


---I got the meter change part. I guess I am referring to sessions that are not properly setup with a song start and a rough tempo/meter map. I think my point was, just hitting capture selection will do just that, it may not be right according to what you are doing, but it will take what is selected on the timeline and place it in the selection boxes. I assume you properly set the song start marker first with a proper tempo.

I would find the tempo of the song first. Then I would place that tempo change at bar 1.

Then I would grab the first beat of the song (usually a kick) and cut and paste that right on the bar at beat one. I would work from there.

Remember, just because BD thinks you've selected from Bar 3-1 to 7-2 doesn't mean it has to stay that way. If it was supposed to be exactly 4 bars (3-1 to 7-1) then type that in. BD will move it to where you want it to be. And don't forget to double-click some of those triggers and define where they should be. In your situation, this will be necessary.

Good luck.

[Kenny Gioia]

Quick question....you dont use this on the overheads in the video..what do you do about those seing as they are prob picking up to much to analyse..also I didnt see a HH. Does it all sound ok having the OVHDS out of sync with the other parts?
I'm thinking you just needed to show us how to do it on a few of the parts but Ovhds would be the difficult one I would think.
Heyyylllpp?:Confused:


It's never too much to analyze. If you use the "add unique" feature (mentioned in the video) it will only add the hits that have not already been added in collection mode.

So if you've done the Kik and Snare already, you can do the Overheads without fear of the Overheads defining the Kik and Snare hits.

I try not to quantize more than just the drums (no cymbals) but sometimes I have no choice.

Having a separate Hi Hat track could help but the Overheads work just fine. (for me)

Thx.

[Nerdyrocker]

"I'm not sure what you mean by "Song Start Marker"?"
The song start marker is the first tempo change in the song, usually a red diamond, marking the position of Bar 1 Beat 1.



Everything else makes sense now.
Thanks again.
Keep the videos coming!

[Barish]

It's a great wee tutorial tutorial indeed. Short, sharp and straight to the point.

A topic like "how to remove pops and clicks from voiceovers" could be an ideal one for the next episode, though :lol:












Sorry, had to be said :Razz:


It's a techie forum after all, you know...


Anyway, someone get this man a drink, forgodssake, he's workin' :D


Nice one Kenny :Thumbsup:

B.

[Shortler]

Thanks Kenny,
Looking forward to more great vids from the camp of Kenny.

[M2E]

Hey Kenny,

Great video. Never used BD but, want to try it now that I've seen this video.

How about doing a video on side chaining in Pro Tools and the different ways you do it. Love to see something like that.

Hey...ya know what??? This is my first post on the Womb.

Take care...

M2E:D

[Slipperman]

Hi.

New here. My first post.

Uhmm.

I'm really having a problem with the PRESENTATION in this Kenny Gheya Beet Detractor video extravaganza thingie.

I need an overbearing, and obviously mentally unstable nitwit instructor to go on interminable tirades and meandering tangents whilst waxing endlessly on totally unrelated subjects and never actually transmitting any useful information about the subject at hand as this is the only way I can learn anything useful in audio.

I know this is an unusual request, but this type of streamlined and concise tutorial you've posted here, soars right over my sodden coconut.

No sir. I need a shitstorm of rhetoric and pseudo-scientific misinformation blowing a tornado of smoke and shattered mirrors up my ass.

Any suggestions?


Joe Blotz

[Barish]

I'm the man you are looking for, Slippy, roll to me.

B.

[Nerdyrocker]

So after some experimenting, I am left with 2 words...

Collection Mode.

I have used BD for years now, why have I never tried this method? Man, the accuracy is incredible. No more mis-triggering. I can actually work faster with Collection mode because I dont have to worry about BD screwing up as much. I also found that I can work with larger selections.

Way to go. Thanks for the tips Kenny. More coming? Soon?

[Kenny Gioia]

Really soon.

And Slippy, welcome to the board.

You have nothing to fear.

I have no plans for releasing my:

"Just Put a 57 in Front of the Amp" video.

Your secret is safe.

XOXOXOXOXOX

[Ashley Smith]

Cheers for the vid, much appriciated :)

[Skwaidu]

It is a very cool little vid. Cheers! ;)

[halfguard]

really cool, thanx :Thumbsup:

[weedywet]

Hey Kenny,
I'm really curious...
what did you use to MAKE the video?


w2

[EyreSpace]

I'd like a video lesson on Kenny's keyboard shortcuts!

[CaptainHook]

what did you use to MAKE the video?


Was it SnapzProX (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/)??

[JFernandez]

Awesome:very happy: Thanks Kenny!

[Kenny Gioia]

Was it SnapzProX (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/)??

Yes. It forces me to do it all in one pass so that explains all the hiccups.

I'd like a video lesson on Kenny's keyboard shortcuts!

Added to the list. Make sure you have QuicKeys (http://www.cesoft.com/) though.

[Brownsound]

Great video, Kenny.

I have a request if you have the time...:Wink:

"Consolidating ProTools Sessions for Archive or Import to Another DAW"

Maybe include:
1. How to consolidate files so they all start at Bar 1
2. Consolidating/bouncing with/without plugins
3. File management (Where the consolidated files actually end up and how to copy them)

I find myself constantly having to explain all this so a video would be fantastic!

[Kenny Gioia]

Added!!!

Thx

[PRobb]

Great video, Kenny.

I have a request if you have the time...:Wink:

"Consolidating ProTools Sessions for Archive or Import to Another DAW"

Maybe include:
1. How to consolidate files so they all start at Bar 1


Import a two beep (or any tightly edited transient) into your session and spot it to bar 1 beat 1 on every track before you consolidate. That will start each region at the same spot and give a reference to check when you import them into a new session.

Kenny- thanx so much for that. Very clear and concise. I, thankfully, haven't had much chance to use BD, but next time I do, I will be much better at it.:Thumbsup: :Thumbsup:

One question. When you defined the region, you were in slip mode to get get right to the transients, yet BD defined the region as if you were in grid. Does that happen automatically?

[Kenny Gioia]

One question. When you defined the region, you were in slip mode to get get right to the transients, yet BD defined the region as if you were in grid. Does that happen automatically?

Yes. It goes to the closest beat. If your drummer isn't too far off, than it should go to the correct one.

You're basically (could I say that word more) telling BD, that this is what belongs on the bar.

If you just did it in Grid Mode, and your drummer hit early, BD wouldn't fix that first hit properly.

[CaptainHook]

Yes. It forces me to do it all in one pass so that explains all the hiccups.


Didn't you get iMovie in iLife on ya iMac??? :lol:

I wouldn't want an edited version. The 'hiccups' are
just as educational as you get to see how people deal
with problems such as when something isn't quite
working.. Which is the reality.

Keep it up. :)

[Kenny Gioia]

iMovie converts everything to DV format.

It makes it huge and it takes 30 minutes just to import it.

No thanks.

[CaptainHook]

Yeah. Hence the 'LOL'...
I dont know why i have Final Cut either.
I NEVER do any video editing.

[Watershed]

Excellent Kenny!

Looking forward to more.

[JFernandez]

Hey Kenny

how about one on sidechaining inside Protools? :grin:

[Kenny Gioia]

Hey Kenny

how about one on sidechaining inside Protools? :grin:

It's coming. I have one for Sidechaining for De-Essing and one for Sidechaining for Look-Ahead compression.

Thx.

[JFernandez]

Awesome! This Forum Rocks!!:Thumbsup:

[CaptainHook]

Kenny ~ my suggestion would be a vid of sample (re)placement.
i.e back in the old land in your shortcuts and tips thread,
the discussion about how you place samples instead of
using sound replacer could make a good vid.
Perhaps showing the advantages of doing this manually
over using sound replacer as well...??
I remember discussing ways to speed this process up.
I'm sure people would benefit from seeing that. :)

[robmacki]

It's coming. I have one for Sidechaining for De-Essing and one for Sidechaining for Look-Ahead compression.

Thx.

:Coolio:
Just as long as I don't have to WUP to follow it.

[Kenny Gioia]

Kenny ~ my suggestion would be a vid of sample (re)placement.
i.e back in the old land in your shortcuts and tips thread,
the discussion about how you place samples instead of
using sound replacer could make a good vid.
Perhaps showing the advantages of doing this manually
over using sound replacer as well...??
I remember discussing ways to speed this process up.
I'm sure people would benefit from seeing that. :)

Already planned. Three of them in fact.

Thanks.

:Coolio:
Just as long as I don't have to WUP to follow it.

No Waves plugins will be used.

[Kenny Gioia]

I've added a Mono Delay Tutorial which focuses on using Digidesign's delay plugins and interesting regeneration techniques.

Go To The Video Thread (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

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The mirrored site for this video is here.

Go To The Video Thread (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

Thanks to Barish for hosting it!!!!

[CaptainHook]

Cool kenny!

My question is, how did you get those 3 plugins in the plugin
list to appear there?? :Razz: (the eq, autotune and massey)

[Brendo]

Great stuff, Kenny. I love the lofi one: Delay ay ay Ay AY SKJ DLS FDS @@#)(!!!

[robmacki]

Already planned. Three of them in fact.

Thanks.



No Waves plugins will be used.

You know, I keep telling myself that lately.

Thanks for the Mono Delay.

These tutorials ROCK!

[robmacki]

Hey Kenny
I notice your Master fader jumping as you speak.
So you must be processing your voice through an Aux in PT then into SnapzProX?? :Coolio: How's that signal chain work?

[Kenny Gioia]

That's a little known trick.

In mac, Hold the Apple Key down while choosing a plugin.

I think it's like a favorites menu.

[CaptainHook]

That's fucking brilliant!!

Cheers Kenny!! :D

How do you remove the plugin from the list?
Hold down the apple key again?

[PSN Big Al]

Mono Delay Tutorial

Spectacular stuff Kenny! Thank you so much. :Coolio: :Thumbsup:

[Kenny Gioia]

It's kind of whacky.

I have to record from Pro Tools output into a second computer for the audio.

I can't talk while instantiating plugins. (I smooth that silence later)

And I'm capturing video on my main PT computer.

Then I make a separate PT session where I bring the Video and Audio together by eye.

Pretty whacky. But it works.

(What's even crazier is looking at a Pro Tools session in the Movie window while working in Pro Tools. I sometimes grab the movie screen. What a dope)

(I should capture that session and do a tutorial on how to do a tutorial. OK - My brain hurts. :icon_eek: :icon_eek: )

[CaptainHook]

What version of Snapz are you using kenny?
Does the "mac audio track" feature not work with PT?

[Kenny Gioia]

That's fucking brilliant!!

Cheers Kenny!! :D

How do you remove the plugin from the list?
Hold down the apple key again?

I believe so.

You have to do it separately for mono and stereo BTW.

I'll mention this trick in one of the tutorials.

Thx.

[Kenny Gioia]

What version of Snapz are you using kenny?
Does the "mac audio track" feature not work with PT?

I assume it's the newest. I only downloaded it last week.

It has a microphone track and it records the main mac output but I doubt (haven't tried it) that it would record the Pro Tools output.

I should try. Huh?

Although the method I have now allows me to touch up the audio a bit.

I can edit a few screwed up lines. It's kind of weird talking to mouse movement. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[CaptainHook]

That's great.
I've wanted to do something like this for ages!!

And as always, the ability was always there. Haha.

Thanks kenny!

Maybe a vid dedicated to shortcuts? (and things like this..)
Even ones you think are wide known may prove useful. :)

[CaptainHook]

Eh. What you're doing now is working well and coming across
great so who cares..

[Kenny Gioia]

It's in the plan.

Thx.

[PSN Big Al]

It has a microphone track and it records the main mac output but I doubt (haven't tried it) that it would record the Pro Tools output.

Are you doing this on a G5 Kenny?

>

[JFernandez]

Brilliant! once again, Thanks Kenny! :very happy:

Is Charles Dye planning on giving away any of his Protools Tips and Tricks? :D

[Kenny Gioia]

Are you doing this on a G5 Kenny?

>

Yeah.

Optical out?

And back in?

[Brendo]

I can't talk while instantiating plugins. (I smooth that silence later)

Could you not bring your mic and PT into a mixer on the way between your PT rig and your tutorial-recording rig?

[PSN Big Al]

Yeah.

Optical out? And back in?

Yep, that's what I do. Works like a charm and has made
everything I need this for so very easy. Give it a try. If there's
some reason your not doing this, what might it be?

I use this to get anything that's happening on the G5 audio
bus right into PT. :Thumbsup:

[Chris Lambrechts]

great stuff Kenny. very well done ... clear, simple and to the point ... looking forward to the next ones.

[Charles Dye]

Another great 1 Kenny!!! :Thumbsup:

[Watershed]

You're a legend Kenny.

I think these should be in a sub-forum of their own!

[Charles Dye]

Great tutorial, Kenny!!!

[Barish]

Top job :Thumbsup:

Thanks a lot.

B.

[luke_m]

Why are you doing these tutorials?? Do you have more on your website, or have you just started doing them?

Really great, thank you, seriously:Yawn:

[Kenny Gioia]

Could you not bring your mic and PT into a mixer on the way between your PT rig and your tutorial-recording rig?

Hmm. Maybe I can use my Folcrom.

Thx.

[Kenny Gioia]

Yep, that's what I do. Works like a charm and has made
everything I need this for so very easy. Give it a try. If there's
some reason your not doing this, what might it be?

I use this to get anything that's happening on the G5 audio
bus right into PT. :Thumbsup:

I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

[Ashley Smith]

Cheers for the vid, but link not working here, can you mirror it to sendspace or rapidshare please.

:)

[Dion Stewart]

Looks like these things are becoming popular.

I couldn't view it this afternoon.

"File sender has exceeded his or her download limit".



Dion

[Barish]

Uploading to a fast mirror FTP is being carried out at the moment. Please bear with him, the links will be available in a minute.

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

The mirrored site is up.

Go To The Video Thread (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

[Barish]

My pleasure.

They are so good, it's a privilege to host them for all.

Keep'em coming Ken.

Regards,

B.

[Dion Stewart]

Excellent.

Thanks Kenny, and thanks Barish for the mirror.


Dion

[5down1up]

Cheers for the vid, but link not working here, can you mirror it to sendspace or rapidshare please.

:)


same here, link doesnt work :Uh oh:

[Barish]

I don't understand. There was a mirror link post and a few courtesy post exchanges plus edited previous messages here a minute ago.

I'm kinda puzzled. Are there parallel realms within threads in this forum????

Anyway.


Edit: Ah! Just found out that there is a new thread born out of this one, so please check it, the mirror link is there: http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1464

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

The regular one is working again.

Thanks

Go To The Video Thread (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

[Ashley Smith]

Cheers for the mirrors :D

[chrisj]

The dotted sixteenth note FilterFreak sequencer filter delay was SWEET, man :D

[rockdart]

hmmm... I can't see it.

I tried to open the link, nothing.
I tried to save it - hang's up at about 50%.
I tried to open it directly from QT - still nothing.

Arrrggghh.

[Kenny Gioia]

I would highly recommend that you watch the Mono Delay Pro Tools Video Tutorial (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491) before downloading this one.

Ping Pong Delay Pro Tools Video Tutorial (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

Enjoy.



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Thanks to Barish for hosting it!!!!

[CaptainHook]

Keep em coming! :D

[Barish]

Superb!

Thanks man.

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

That's it for tonight.

I'll make more tomorrow.

[JFernandez]

Thanks Kenny! Keep em coming! Love it! :very happy:

Im Really Looking forward to the Sidechaining one!!

Esp on Kick and Bass. Keep up the good work!

Im passing this on to my kids who are learning how to be engineer's

They are very greatful!

[ryst]

Kenny, I can't thank you enough...these are very good!

[theom]

Man again..........

Fucking ace job on these vids!



Please consider this for the next video.

Now what I spend hours showing friends:

Taking a drum take played with no click.

Using identify beat to establish a grid/tempo map....Then beat detective the shaky parts.

The digi manual sucks at explaining this process.
I know you could demo it clearly and really REALLY help a lot of people out.

[Kenny Gioia]

It's on the list.

Thx.

[Senap]

Not to draw attention from your magnificent tutorials, but what Mac software did you use to capture what you where doing on the screen?

I've been looking for something like that for a while.

[juniorhifikit]

Hey Kenny,

Very large of you to share all this info! Really nice job!:Thumbsup:










I think you might have said "16th notes" when clicking the 8th note buttons on the delay

[Kenny Gioia]

It's called Snapz Pro X. (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/)



Not to draw attention from your magnificent tutorials, but what Mac software did you use to capture what you where doing on the screen?

I've been looking for something like that for a while.

[Barish]

I think you might have said "16th notes" when clicking the 8th note buttons on the delay

He was checking if anybody was paying attention ;)

M.

[Oreganmusic]

Thanks kenny and thanks Barish!! great vids.:Thumbsup:

[Barish]

Well... thanks a lot but I don't think that I deserve a credit for Kenny's stuff :Uh oh:

It's his genius. I just happen to have some free space and bandwidth that's getting paid and wasted for not being used.

B.

[Senap]

It's called Snapz Pro X. (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/)

:Thumbsup:

[Dubnick]

I never messed with collection mode or promote triggers in Beat Detective - pretty damn cool! Thanks.

[CaptainHook]

Hey Kenny, i think i said this in the old thread back in the
marsh when talking about kick sample enhancements..

You dont need to press the colon to go down to the next track,
tab, then go back up to your samples tracks to paste.
You can highlight BOTH the samples tracks, and the real kick
track, and just hit tab, then paste. Because only the three
samples track are in the clipboard, it ignores any tracks
BELOW the top 3 tracks that have been selected.

But i guess with your quick keys, you're pressing one key
to tab and paste, and i'm still hitting two.

But for people without quickeys, in kennys example, select
all four tracks AFTER you've copied/cut the samples from
their tracks, then hit tab and paste and your real kick drum
track wont be copied over.

Great vid again kenny!

I've still been doing tab -> transient but getting beat detective
to 'mark' your transients is definitely faster now that i've
"seen" it. :)

[JRjr]

Kenny,

these are great...thank you so much for taking time to do these...keep 'em coming..

[Oreganmusic]

thanks again kenny, really great PROTURIALS:D

cheers also to you Barish.

[robmacki]

Wow CG upgrade on the intro!
:D
Snare Enhancement was HOT!!!!

[JFernandez]

Awesome Kenny!:Coolio:

[CaptainHook]

Wow Kenny.
That fade on the snare roll is genius!

And i even got a mention for the tab->paste grouping method!
Cheers. :)

[Barish]

Kwuol!


These snare + kick tutorials are gold, man. Thanks a lot.


Don't forget to make some money on the way, though. Such a knowledge don't come to one for free.

Powers to you .

B.

[fredbear]

Please Kenny;
Am I doing something wrong with these downloads, I get between, 1.8 meg or 4 and a bit megs before the downloads freeze midstream.......
Please help

[SimonT]

Hey Kenny thanks for the vids, I like Hooks idea on the keyboard shortcuts one.

[Watershed]

Hey Kenny thanks for the vids, I like Hooks idea on the keyboard shortcuts one.

Yeah, I'll 3rd that one.

[Nerdyrocker]

Thanks for the videos, Kenny.
I am curious, do you not like plug-ins for processes such as replacement; for example, Sound Replacer, Drum-a-Gog, etc?

[KEN1]

Thanks for the videos, Kenny.
I am curious, do you not like plug-ins for processes such as replacement; for example, Sound Replacer, Drum-a-Gog, etc?


He does'nt want to actually replace the original hit's but only enhance them.His technique is awesome but i'm not nearly as quick on the key's as Kenny so Drumagog and it's blend feature is actually faster for me.I normally blend the sample to the hit 30-40% sample,60-70% original hit.For fast fill's like on the video i'll blend less sample at the beginning and more as it get's louder.

[Nerdyrocker]

He does'nt want to actually replace the original hit's but only enhance them.

One of the features that I cannot live without in Sound Replacer is the 'Destination Track' selector. Once you choose the sample and velocity splits, you get to pick which track the audio is placed on.
Brilliant!

[Kenny Gioia]

Thanks for the videos, Kenny.
I am curious, do you not like plug-ins for processes such as replacement; for example, Sound Replacer, Drum-a-Gog, etc?

They just don't do it for me.

Sound Replacer tends to shift the sample so you still have to line them up.

Drum-a-Gog is pretty good but I also hear some phase issues that I would have to tweak.

Remember… these videos are all about my way.

If something works better for you…Do it.

There's no right way.

Good luck.

[Kenny Gioia]

Please Kenny;
Am I doing something wrong with these downloads, I get between, 1.8 meg or 4 and a bit megs before the downloads freeze midstream.......
Please help

Not sure.

I've had some issues with streaming them but they all seem to download fine for me.

I'll do further investigating.

Thx.

[Watershed]

They download super fast for me. 760ish kbps all the way, which is about my maximum. So it probably goes even quicker for anyone with more bandwidth than me.

[Barish]

Please Kenny;
Am I doing something wrong with these downloads, I get between, 1.8 meg or 4 and a bit megs before the downloads freeze midstream.......
Please help

There was a short period last night when my server got a bit slow (in one of those rare moments frankly speaking) and I experienced difficulties in uploading/downloading as well but I tested it after recovery and it was pulling down with some 5-600 (and also the same for uploading) so it should be fine now.

Your attempt may also have coincided with Kenny's replacement of the previous videos with credit-captioned versions.

Anyway, if the problem persists please drop a line, I'll check it with the customer service.

B.

[Brendo]

barish's links are way slower for me, but then the womb's hosted over my neck of the woods, right?

[Ashley Smith]

Awesome vids man, really cool to watch some tuts instead of reading the web.

Hey Charles, have you got anymore in the piepline too?

:)

[Nerdyrocker]

Absolutely, there is no right way.
I was just curious. I have had great luck with Sound Replacer but not every studio I go to has that plug-in.
As Borat would put it, 'Very nice!'

[Olivier le Castor]

Hi Kenny,

Thanks for the time for putting out those videos.
I would really like to see one explaining reverb and basic EQ settings applied to drums (level, color,...).
In fact, it would be very COOL to get a little course on reverbs through a song; Let's say plate on snare, room on drums, hall on vocal and interactions on the different levels to create perspective with rhythm and lead instruments.
Thanks again for your time,
All the best,
O

[Kenny Gioia]

There's more added.

Click Here (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)

Enjoy.

[SimonT]

Thnaks Kenny your a legend!

[JFernandez]

Thanks Kenny!

[Olivier le Castor]

Thanks Kenny !

Help with the reverbs please...:grin:

[Oreganmusic]

Heh thanks kenny, really great vids.

I have a suggestion for a possible future vid?
I know it's a third party plug but is it possible to do a quick tutorial on using autotune on vocals, especially the graphical editor?

thanks for the consideration,
Bren.

[5down1up]

ÜberCool Videos ! :Thumbsup:

still would like to see, deessing, gates & ducking, special f.x, and some automation tricks ! i am pleased with what i saw already, but the mentioned topics i would really like to get more insight !

:Thumbsup: A++

[macr0w]

Very Nice!
See how nice the world is when people share. :D
Thanks Kenny

[Kenny Gioia]

Thanks Kenny !

Help with the reverbs please...:grin:

I'm giving it some thought. It's a very long and wide subject that may be difficult in the style I'm using. I'm still thinking.



I know it's a third party plug but is it possible to do a quick tutorial on using autotune on vocals, especially the graphical editor?

thanks for the consideration,
Bren.

This is coming really soon.

ÜberCool Videos ! :Thumbsup:

still would like to see, deessing, gates & ducking, special f.x, and some automation tricks ! i am pleased with what i saw already, but the mentioned topics i would really like to get more insight !

:Thumbsup: A++

Also coming soon.

[Jason Phair]

Well, I haven't seen anyone post about it, so I'm assuming I'm the only one who has the issue of the snare video's audio turning into white noise about one minute in, and crashing Quicktime?

[Olivier le Castor]

Hi Kenny,

I won't use my jedi tricks for reverb thinking on you, promise...:Wink: :very happy:
But sure that would be very helpfull and maybe need 2 or 3 shots.
Anyway, this is a great work so keep it up !

All the best,

Olivier

[Brendo]

I'd like to see one on vocal comping, before you get into autotuning.

[Watershed]

I'd like to see one on vocal comping, before you get into autotuning.

Agreed
And whilst I'd love to see Ottotoon in action, I don't have it, so it's not a big priority for me.

[Kenny Gioia]

I'd like to see one on vocal comping, before you get into autotuning.

They'll probably come out about the same time.

I'm still trying to find a vocal track I can use. (Copyrights etc)

It might have to be me. :lol:

[Oreganmusic]

Well, I haven't seen anyone post about it, so I'm assuming I'm the only one who has the issue of the snare video's audio turning into white noise about one minute in, and crashing Quicktime?

HI JASON,

i had the same problem...but i just downloaded it for a second time and then it worked perfectly..so just try again i guess.

[Barish]

They'll probably come out about the same time.

I'm still trying to find a vocal track I can use. (Copyrights etc)

It might have to be me. :lol:


You can use my vocal track from the Cape III if you like. It's all over the fucking place anyway, flat, pitchy, straining, out-of-time... anything you need to show how to fix, it has it. Ideal corpse for anatomy class.

Lemme know if you want it, I'll fire it up.

B.

[weedywet]

Love that Control-Grab trick on the tom video!

very cool.

you learn something new every other day, I always say...

[Kenny Gioia]

There's another one added today.

Go get it.


Click Here (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=1491)


Go. What are you still HERE for.

[Watershed]

Kenny
A couple of quick questions on the parallel compression.

First, I'm assuming the ability to assign multiple outputs to a channel is a HD only feature? I've never tried it in LE, but I've never heard of anyone doing it either.

And so second, what is the difference between using separate busses for the compressed and uncompressed AUXs, verses using the same buss for both?
If using the same buss is a no no, how do we work around this in LE?

[theshaggyfreak]

And so second, what is the difference between using separate busses for the compressed and uncompressed AUXs, verses using the same buss for both?
If using the same buss is a no no, how do we work around this in LE?

Couldn't you just set each aux to the same input (Bus 1, etc)?

[archtop]

Watershed stole my question.

Yes you can supply multiple out with LE.

But why does he choose multiple outs instead of just using
"compress" input for both aux's ?

[Kenny Gioia]

Aaaah.

It seems that the students have gotten smarter than the teacher.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, my original plan for the video was to have the "compress" buss on it's own aux send, so you could adjust it's mix separately.

I scrapped that idea and never thought of using the same buss.

Good job guys. :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup:

[Barish]

Parallel compression tutorial is very nice. A couple of nice little tricks more in there too as usual.

Thanks a lot again Kenny :Thumbsup:

The mirror will be ready in 6-7 mins.

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

The mirror will be ready in 6-7 mins.

B.

Sorry. I'm supposed to be doing that. Thx.

[Barish]

No worries. The pleasure is mine :Thumbsup:

Thanks for the efforts again.

B.

[PRobb]

Great vids!

One question not really related to the subject. Why don't have the OH and rooms on stereo tracks?

[Barish]

Oh... BTW... Kenny... your sig...


...we are already here, man...


Tried to join you but ended up here in the same place again.


Cheers.

B.

[Kenny Gioia]

Oh... BTW... Kenny... your sig...


...we are already here, man...


Tried to join you but ended up here in the same place again.


Cheers.

B.

Lol

[JFernandez]

Another Great one, Thanks Kenny!

[weedywet]

So Kenny,

by not using Delay Compensation, you HAVE effectively delayed all your drums by whatever amount the plug in(s) add though, right?
(relative to the rest of the track)

also, ever use busses to send to the compressor instead of outputs?
I know I sometimes want the mix to the compressor to be DIFFERENT than what feeds the uncompressed group (less bass drum, for example)

another nice job!

cheers,
w2

[Watershed]

Yes you can supply multiple out with LE.
OK, thanks Arch. I'll have to give that one a try.

Good one for the tip & tricks thread I think.

[theshaggyfreak]

OK, thanks Arch. I'll have to give that one a try.

Good one for the tip & tricks thread I think.

Hrm, I tried it and it didn't seem to work.

[5down1up]

nice video again !!! :Thumbsup:

[Ashley Smith]

Just found a bug that maybe other LE users want to check out in PT 7.3.1 and perhaps earlier versions too.

In the manual it says that bounced tracks are compensated for the delay incured by plugins, but, if you bounce a track out with a plugin that causes a delay, then import it back in, you'll see and hear the delay when placed side by side with the original.

Sounds like Digi made a c**k up. So, I've e-mailed them.

They really need to include ADC in LE, we need it!

:(

[Brendo]

Hrm, I tried it and it didn't seem to work.

Use the right mouse button when selecting the second out.

Y'know how I worked this out?

One of my students continually failed the competency test because I never told him which mouse button to use.

:Roll eyes:

[Kenny Gioia]

So Kenny,

by not using Delay Compensation, you HAVE effectively delayed all your drums by whatever amount the plug in(s) add though, right?
(relative to the rest of the track)

Yeah. Exactly. But we're talking 5 or 6 samples. Nothing you should hear. In fact, I have the compressors and EQ on those drum tracks while tracking. So everyone (including the drummer) is playing to the later version.


also, ever use busses to send to the compressor instead of outputs?
I know I sometimes want the mix to the compressor to be DIFFERENT than what feeds the uncompressed group (less bass drum, for example)



Yeah. That's what I started to do in the tutorial. That's why I set up different buses.

Thx.

[Watershed]

Use the right mouse button when selecting the second out.

Y'know how I worked this out?

One of my students continually failed the competency test because I never told him which mouse button to use.

:Roll eyes:
Didn't work for me Brendo.

[Mundox]

It's "control" click on second outputs on Mac.

[Brendo]

You need to engage the menu with the right click as well. So it's a right click and drag I believe.

He may have been holding down some wacky key combo though.

I had no idea you could do that until he did it and I spent 10 minutes trying to work out why to fail him.


Kenny says its ctrl alt shift on a mac, the ctrl makes it a right click, alt does "all", shift does "selected, so alt shift does "all selected", so he is "right clicking all selected". So yeah, it should just be a right click?!

[theshaggyfreak]

You need to engage the menu with the right click as well. So it's a right click and drag I believe.

He may have been holding down some wacky key combo though.

I had no idea you could do that until he did it and I spent 10 minutes trying to work out why to fail him.


Kenny says its ctrl alt shift on a mac, the ctrl makes it a right click, alt does "all", shift does "selected, so alt shift does "all selected", so he is "right clicking all selected". So yeah, it should just be a right click?!

I only get "Make Inactive" and "Rename" when I do a right click. I've tried all the keyboard combos but I get the same thing no matter what.

[Watershed]

I only get "Make Inactive" and "Rename" when I do a right click. I've tried all the keyboard combos but I get the same thing no matter what.

Same here. Maybe it's Mac only for LE?
It thought they were all the same now :Roll eyes:

[Brendo]

GUYS! I know you can do this on LE on Windows, in 6.4...

[Watershed]

Hmmm, well renaming I/O this way is only new to LE7, so maybe they've removed the multi outs.... or totally changed how you go about it.....

Maybe I should just RTFM :Coolio:

[Kenny Gioia]

There's more…

[Barish]

That's a very simple and neat one. Sounds pretty cool at the top end.


I've mirrored it as usual.


Thanks.

B.

[theshaggyfreak]

GUYS! I know you can do this on LE on Windows, in 6.4...

I've tried it many times now and I've tried searching for any mention of this for LE (7.3) in the manual. I am having no luck with it.

[Ashley Smith]

If you're after selecting more than one out, in PT on the Mac it's Shift+Ctrl then click on the out you want to add to the current selection.

[theshaggyfreak]

If you're after selecting more than one out, in PT on the Mac it's Shift+Ctrl then click on the out you want to add to the current selection.

Okay that works for OSX. I finally figured it out for PCs. It's the Windows Key (usually between CTRL and Alt on most keyboards I've seen) and Shift with a left click on the 2nd (or 3rd) output. I honestly never knew that you could do things with that key in Pro Tools. I suppose I should read the manuals a little more.

[Watershed]

Nice one Shaggy, thanks :Thumbsup:
Rep points for you :grin:

[Watershed]

Now to watch the cymbal compression vid.....

[theshaggyfreak]

Nice one Shaggy, thanks :Thumbsup:
Rep points for you :grin:

It gets a little confusing for me considering that I'm working in both worlds now until I can afford to finally switch to the dark side and get myself a Mac for my desktop. :)

Oh, and I really dig the ideas in the new video. Ya know, I've been searching for these kinds of tutorials for a while now. It's these sorts of in depth techniques that inspire me and I have yet to find a Pro Tools book out there that goes into stuff like this.

[Kenny Gioia]

Nice one Shaggy, thanks :Thumbsup:
Rep points for you :grin:

And…

When am I gonna get some?

[theshaggyfreak]

And…

When am I gonna get some?

I just gave you some love :) After all, it's Valentines day.

[Kenny Gioia]

tanks.

Who said these things were free?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Watershed]

There ya go.... spreadin' the love :Coolio:

[Barish]

tanks.

Who said these things were free?



Uhoh, you Yanks know so well how to give them away as a favour first and then sell the spare parts for extortionate prices afterwards:

http://womb.mixerman.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1179&stc=1&d=1171506666

[KenBoy]

Great vidz!!

Did you make these drum samples, or are they third party ones? If so from what library ?

Thanks.

[weedywet]

oooh, I sense a Gioia-ful Drums Sample CD in the offing.

[PSN Big Al]

oooh, I sense a Gioia-ful Drums Sample CD in the offing.

Uh...he already has one I think. :)

http://homepage.mac.com/produceher/EnGioiaDrumming/index.html

[PRobb]

The cymbal trick looks great. I'll definitely give it a try. Thanx so much for doing these.

Two questions. Why don't you like delay compensation? And why don't you have your rooms and OHs on stereo tracks? OK, three questions- what is the compressor you're using?

[Ashley Smith]

Compressor is Massey CT4. All the Massey stuff is excellent :)

[Kenny Gioia]

The cymbal trick looks great. I'll definitely give it a try. Thanx so much for doing these.

Two questions. Why don't you like delay compensation? And why don't you have your rooms and OHs on stereo tracks? OK, three questions- what is the compressor you're using?

Yeah, Massey CT4 is the only compressor I really love besides Channelstrip. They both can really squash without making stuff sound small.

I put Overheads and Rooms on mono tracks out of habit.

The old Neve I cut my teeth on didn't have stereo channels.

I like rebalancing them often.

I do use stereo tracks for some things. Most times I just use mono. There's no wrong way.

I never got the hang of Auto-Delay compensation. I've always found workarounds before it was there.

Now, it seems to cause more problems than it solves for me.

Sometimes I turn it off and it seems to stay on until I restart the computer.

But mostly it's the latency while recording. I put some heavy stuff on the 2 buss so it adds too much delay to record with.

And if I have to turn it off sometimes, it's gonna screw other stuff up too.

My way seems to work fine for me.

[PRobb]

I like delay compensation for mixing, but it definitely has to go away for ODs. And the 2 buss stuff has to go too. I do the control apple click grey out deinstantiate thing. A case of YMMV.

Thanx again for the cymbal thing. That's going to get used!:Thumbsup:

[Kenny Gioia]

I like delay compensation for mixing, but it definitely has to go away for ODs. And the 2 buss stuff has to go too. I do the control apple click grey out deinstantiate thing. A case of YMMV.

Thanx again for the cymbal thing. That's going to get used!:Thumbsup:

That's ridiculous. I can't work that way.

[burak]

Uh...he already has one I think. :)

http://homepage.mac.com/produceher/EnGioiaDrumming/index.html

I got them, they're pretty cool.

[PRobb]

That's ridiculous. I can't work that way.

Like I said, YMMV:grin:

[D.Michaels]

Hey Kenny,

Thanks man... especially the cymbal comp stuff. Really, when do you find time to sleep with all the stuff you do? Producing, making sample CDs, turorials, forums... ?

You must eat your Wheaties regularly eh?

[weedywet]

deinstantiate is NOT a real word.

[PSN Big Al]

deinstantiate is NOT a real word.

Neither is weedywet. :Twisted:

[CaptainHook]

Kenny ~ on the parallel comp vid, do you use a control surface
to bring down the aux sends?

Or is this ANOTHER magic shortcut i've been oblivious to this
whole time? :D

[Kenny Gioia]

I think you mean Aux returns. Yes?

Yeah.

It's misleading because my cursor is right over the faders but I'm actually moving them down with my left hand on my control surface.

That would be a nifty QuicKey.

[daleandtheguitar]

Hi, all. Just stumbled onto this site a few days ago... been reading all of the good advice - already lovin it... and my girl already hates it (there is a lot of good advice to read). Especially the videos. Kudos, Kenny. We-of-limited-experience find this type of tutorial invaluable. Good on you, man. I just wanted that to be my first post. And it is...

[weedywet]

control surfaces are for girlies

[Dubnick]

Hey Kenny -

The videos are really well done, and some of the shortcuts, like setting up multiple outs by key commands have been even more of a revelation than the featured techniques. That having been said, I thought I should point out a very minor mistake in the delay videos - when you select the delay times, the narration says you are selecting 16th notes, but in both videos, you are selecting 8ths. It's no big deal, and my apologies if someone already pointed this out. Hope you keep them up - always interesting watching people go through thier process.

[CaptainHook]

I think you mean Aux returns. Yes?


Sorry. Yes i do mean returns..


That would be a nifty QuicKey.

Hah. Thought that was too good to be true.
Where's our digi/startly rep?

control surfaces are for girlies

:lol:

[ProTooler]

Kenny -
Thanks so much for these. I've learned so much. I have one question:
In doing Beat Detective in sections, at the end of a section, I'm having a hard time starting the next section because of the fade and blank space of the previous section. Hard to explain, but maybe you understand what I'm trying to articulate here. What do I need to do to get the next section fixed in Beat Detective?
Thanks again.
OK, I lied, I just thought of a second question. :) Any suggestions on great sounding toms? Yours sound fantastic. I have a problem with cymbals bleeding into my tom mics and I boost high end in the toms causes the cymbals to jump out when the toms are unmuted. I can supplement w/ tom samples, but I'd rather get them sounding good to start with if possible.
You rule bro...

[Kenny Gioia]

when you select the delay times, the narration says you are selecting 16th notes, but in both videos, you are selecting 8ths.



Yeah. I caught that. That narrator has since been fired and all further videos will be done by me personally.

Unfortunately my New Yawk accent is no better than his.

After carefully checking the video, I noticed that the narration mentioning 1/16 notes plays over the music in some parts. Which means, I either have to completely redo the video, do some crazy editing or leave it alone.

Hmmm…

thx

[Kenny Gioia]

Kenny -
Thanks so much for these. I've learned so much. I have one question:
In doing Beat Detective in sections, at the end of a section, I'm having a hard time starting the next section because of the fade and blank space of the previous section. Hard to explain, but maybe you understand what I'm trying to articulate here. What do I need to do to get the next section fixed in Beat Detective?

I'm not sure if I completely understand the question but I will try to answer what I think you're asking.

I usually delete what ever BD does to the ending of each section and start completely over with each new section as if I just started a new song.

Afterwards, I then manually connect the sections.

Does that help?


Any suggestions on great sounding toms? Yours sound fantastic. I have a problem with cymbals bleeding into my tom mics and I boost high end in the toms causes the cymbals to jump out when the toms are unmuted. I can supplement w/ tom samples, but I'd rather get them sounding good to start with if possible.
You rule bro...

Well thanks…… alot.

I'm using a E609 Silver on the Rack, and an Audix D2 on the Floor. Neve 1272 Preamps and point them at the drum.

Nothing special really. A great drummer helps. (BTW - That's not me)

[Kenny Gioia]

control surfaces are for girlies

You say that like it's a bad thing. :grin: :grin: :grin:

[ProTooler]

I'm not sure if I completely understand the question but I will try to answer what I think you're asking.

I usually delete what ever BD does to the ending of each section and start completely over with each new section as if I just started a new song.

Afterwards, I then manually connect the sections.

Does that help?



Well thanks…… alot.

I'm using a E609 Silver on the Rack, and an Audix D2 on the Floor. Neve 1272 Preamps and point them at the drum.

Nothing special really. A great drummer helps. (BTW - That's not me)

That is my question; but, how do you "manually connect the sections"?

Also, do you start a new session for every section and do a save as?

I've never used BD and I'm recording a band where the drummer (17 yrs. old) used a click for the fist time and he's all over the place.
Thanks so much again for helping us all out.

[luke_m]

man how many years did it take to learn all this stuff, it must be a fun day in the life of kenny when everything is that easy.

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[Kenny Gioia]

That is my question; but, how do you "manually connect the sections"?

I drag them into each other and manually crossfade them without using BD.

Also, do you start a new session for every section and do a save as?

Nah. I usually save before I start and after I'm done.

I do, however have autosave on and set for 3 minutes.

I've never used BD and I'm recording a band where the drummer (17 yrs. old) used a click for the fist time and he's all over the place.
Thanks so much again for helping us all out.

No problem.

[Kenny Gioia]

man how many years did it take to learn all this stuff, it must be a fun day in the life of kenny when everything is that easy.



As far as using Pro Tools, yes. It's very easy for me.

Unfortunately, life has a funny way of balancing things out for me.

Other things (tying shoes, speaking clearly and chewing gum) are quite hard. :very happy: :very happy:

(Psst!!! - There's more added)

[Olivier le Castor]

Hi Kenny,

About your Beat detective video, could you please elaborate a little more about "promoting triggers".
That wasn't very clear for me why you didn't use it in the first tracks. What option does that give to you ? (reading PT manual is confusing).
Also, when you regroup all the drums, the triggers are marking all the other tracks' beats because you "captured" selection at the beginning, right ?
Also, what about some "reverb" tips on spacialization and room interactions with drums and rhythm/lead instruments...:Roll eyes:
Thanks for your time,
All the best,
Olivier

[ProTooler]

I drag them into each other and manually crossfade them without using BD.

How does that retain the relationship to the grid and other instruments when you drag them into each other? Sorry for being so thick here. :Confused:

[stoned grace]

its just the tops and tails that are being extended. the audio isnt moving.
Hope that helps

[mmf1978]

Hey Kenny,
Great vids, man.

What is the "slow tape" effect you are using at the end of the intro in your vids?

manufacturer/name/settings?

Thanks

Mike.

[Oreganmusic]

What is the "slow tape" effect you are using at the end of the intro in your vids?



TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A PITCH SHIFT/TIME STRETCH SORT EFFECT MAYBE LIKE FROM WAVES SOUNDSHIFTER OR SIMILAR....

THAT INTRO TUNE ALWAYS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING LIKE AN AVRIL LAVIGNE SONG :lol:

[PRobb]

Weedy- control surfaces are for people who think "Mix" is a verb.

Kenny- two more absolutely awesome vids! Thanks.

[Ashley Smith]

Kenny,

I don't see the normal and collection mode in BD here under PT LE, am I missing something or is that feature only for HD? If so, what can us LE users use/do to conform a click, etc...?

Thanks

[ffaudio]

This may be way way (way) too much to ask, but I'd be very interested in hearing like a short 1 minute long song or something, having you play it fully without anything mixed, then having you do like a longer video (30 minuteish?) of going through the entire mix (which you've obviously already done before so you can go relatively easy through it in 30).

That would be awesome, but I also know it would take a lot of preperation and set up.

[ProTooler]

its just the tops and tails that are being extended. the audio isnt moving.
Hope that helps

ok, thanks... so i'm assuming that there's no fade at the end of a section that's been "beat detectived"?

[SimonT]

Thanks for another great vid

[theshaggyfreak]

Kenny,

I don't see the normal and collection mode in BD here under PT LE, am I missing something or is that feature only for HD? If so, what can us LE users use/do to conform a click, etc...?

Thanks

It's HD only unless you have the DV Toolkit (I think) upgrade.

[Watershed]

It's HD only unless you have the DV Toolkit (I think) upgrade.

You also get it for LE with the MP Toolkit.

[Kenny Gioia]

Hi Kenny,

About your Beat detective video, could you please elaborate a little more about "promoting triggers".
That wasn't very clear for me why you didn't use it in the first tracks. What option does that give to you ? (reading PT manual is confusing).

Promoting triggers is the process of telling BD that you want these triggers to stay, regardless of where the sensitivity slider is.

When BD is making too many or too little triggers when adjusting the sensitivity slider, you have two options:

1. Delete all the triggers that you don't need.

2. Promote the triggers that you do need.

Your job is to find the shorter of the 2 paths.

Also, when you regroup all the drums, the triggers are marking all the other tracks' beats because you "captured" selection at the beginning, right ?


Whatever tracks are selected or grouped, will have all the triggers on them.

[Kenny Gioia]

Hey Kenny,
Great vids, man.

What is the "slow tape" effect you are using at the end of the intro in your vids?

manufacturer/name/settings?

Thanks

Mike.

Vari-Fi by Digidesign.

[Kenny Gioia]

This may be way way (way) too much to ask, but I'd be very interested in hearing like a short 1 minute long song or something, having you play it fully without anything mixed, then having you do like a longer video (30 minuteish?) of going through the entire mix (which you've obviously already done before so you can go relatively easy through it in 30).

That would be awesome, but I also know it would take a lot of preperation and set up.

It's a little much for the purpose of these videos.

Although I will consider it.

[ffaudio]

It's a little much for the purpose of these videos.

Although I will consider it.

It's just a dream. :) Keep doing what you're doing. They're very helpful.

[daleandtheguitar]

One thing I am curious about for "Beat Detective Collection Mode"... I'm on LE on pc and it doesn't look like I have the choice between detection modes (collection mode and normal). Does this mean I can't perform this operation?

[Ashley Smith]

Dale,

Yes, this is only a HD feature unless you have the DV ToolKit or Music Production kits witht he full BD version.

;)

Hopefully someone can talk us through another method, unless, thus we have to do each track one by one or something.

[theshaggyfreak]

Dale,

Yes, this is only a HD feature unless you have the DV ToolKit or Music Production kits witht he full BD version.

;)

Hopefully someone can talk us through another method, unless, thus we have to do each track one by one or something.

Actually, there were some comments about this in the shortcuts sticky.

http://womb.mixerman.net/showpost.php?p=26153&postcount=20

[Watershed]

Kenny, thanks for the click track vid.
I've been wondering about the difference between ticks and samples on the tracks for a while now.... just never got around to looking it up.

Excellent work as usual!

[Watershed]

BTW..... if you ever do produce a full length tutorial DVD, I'll definitely buy it!

[PSN Big Al]

BTW..... if you ever do produce a full length tutorial DVD, I'll definitely buy it!

DITTO! :Thumbsup:

[Oreganmusic]

BTW..... if you ever do produce a full length tutorial DVD, I'll definitely buy it!

DITTO! :Thumbsup:

[Brendo]

you could probably make one up from the files he's posted...

[Ashley Smith]

Actually, there were some comments about this in the shortcuts sticky.

http://womb.mixerman.net/showpost.php?p=26153&postcount=20

Thanks m8 :Thumbsup:

[PRobb]

About the click thing- if the track was recorded without a click, the first bass drum will be at some random place in the measure. How do you you make it beat one of the bar?

[Kenny Gioia]

About the click thing- if the track was recorded without a click, the first bass drum will be at some random place in the measure. How do you you make it beat one of the bar?

Highlight the whole track (all instruments) cut, and copy into to the top of a bar.

[PRobb]

Highlight the whole track (all instruments) cut, and copy into to the top of a bar.
Crap. That's what I did, but I was hoping there would be better answer.
After that it worked like a charm! Thanks again.

[Skwaidu]

I just checked out some of the later vids, and apart from some over-eager VO editing(or something that seems like it) I just gotta say that these ROCK!

Much of it I know already but almost every vid has a trick or two I haven't known, have forgotten to really use, or something else refreshing that keeps me interested. And thay are in a cool package to boot... Way to go Kenny! :Coolio:

[Skwaidu]

Crap. That's what I did, but I was hoping there would be better answer.
After that it worked like a charm! Thanks again.

I think I recall doing the "better answer" version at some point and I recall it was a PITA in some way(which escapes me right now! :) )... But in that session I needed to maintain sync with older versions of the session so I had to do it via setting a tempo change to the 1st BD, to get it to be beat 1.

[daleandtheguitar]

Actually, there were some comments about this in the shortcuts sticky.

http://womb.mixerman.net/showpost.php?p=26153&postcount=20

Thanks for the head's up, cat.

[KevinS]

DITTO! :Thumbsup:

I'd buy it too. Hey PSN Big Al, How about getting Kenny on the PSN show for a celebrity interview. I'd love to get Kenny's spin on things a la what you've done with Charles.

What do you say Kenny?? (nudge, nudge)

[ProTooler]

Kenny -
I just did my first mix with your cymbal compression technique. All I can say is WOW!! :Thumbsup:

The whole mix sounds like the blanket came off of the speakers. Now I have to go back and remix all the other songs on the album that I'm working on so they'll sound this open and airy.
Thanks again... Bill

[PSN Big Al]

I'd buy it too. Hey PSN Big Al, How about getting Kenny on the PSN show for a celebrity interview. I'd love to get Kenny's spin on things a la what you've done with Charles.

Too late! I already got him. :Coolio:

[KevinS]

Too late! I already got him. :Coolio:

Sweet! I can't wait to hear it.:grin:

[Kenny Gioia]

Sweet! I can't wait to hear it.:grin:

Me too. :lol: :lol: