crossfades ??

[halfguard]

do you guys do crossfades on every region. for example..i usually work in 4 bar increments (hip hop, electronic)what i usually do is sequence my drums on my mpc then dump into pro tools. then ill just arrange the different patterns in pt. most of the time i wont get any clicks, so only usually use a crossfade if i do. i read something where they said all regions should be crossfaded. i was just wondering what the norm is. thanx for any help....

[Mundox]

A few milliseconds of xfade would not hurt anybody. :grin:

[Brownsound]

Although it is good practice to crossfade all edits, it is possible that "a few miliseconds" of crossfade could shave off the transients of beats...
99.9% of the time it will be fine, but one day you just might notice that the impact of your beats has been slightly softened by crossfading.
Just be aware...

[jord]

I'll do crossfading on a case by case basis. If the edit I am doing has to sound seamless, then I will apply a crossfade if necessary. If it blends in as it is, then I won't apply a crossfade. If I am chopping up a sample and going for an abrupt feeling, I will not do any crossfading.

jord

[Skwaidu]

Although it is good practice to crossfade all edits, it is possible that "a few miliseconds" of crossfade could shave off the transients of beats...
99.9% of the time it will be fine, but one day you just might notice that the impact of your beats has been slightly softened by crossfading.
Just be aware...

If I do "Just In Case" batch crossfades I always apply them "pre-splice" which remedies this...

[PRobb]

If I do "Just In Case" batch crossfades I always apply them "pre-splice" which remedies this...
+1

And it's always a good idea with a heavily edited track to check it for edits and crossfades soloed in headphones.

[Thumper]

If I do "Just In Case" batch crossfades I always apply them "pre-splice" which remedies this...

In loop based material.... Regions duplicated over and over again for instance... There usually is nothing before the start of the region, so pre-splice fades won't work.

[Skwaidu]

In loop based material.... Regions duplicated over and over again for instance... There usually is nothing before the start of the region, so pre-splice fades won't work.

Well, In that case I might make tiny fades to the start and end of the loop... Though most premade loops are surely built with their own fade ins and outs already there,or with zero crossing, right?

[Baddo]

I would lose sleep if I didn't crossfade or fade in/out every cut I do. Really. Although when working with loops, if I didn't produce them and they come from a library, I don't bother.

[Thumper]

Well, In that case I might make tiny fades to the start and end of the loop... Though most premade loops are surely built with their own fade ins and outs already there,or with zero crossing, right?

Probably... But what I'm thinking of, is sampled stuff. Someone wants to make a loop of a Clyde Stubblefied drum loop. They only have access to the 2track CD. Chances are, that there are going to be tiny clicks happening.

The only proper way to do it, is to make the base region a little longer at the head, and use that as the overlap for the pre-splice crossfade.

Even with 2 really tiny crossfades, it might not sound natural, because there is a moment there of complete silence. Now, if there's other crap going on at the same time, you might not notice it. BUT if it's soloed in the mix, I think you'd be able to tell that something's up.

[halfguard]

mainly i was talikng about my own stuff not samples. my own kicks /snares/ chords etc.......

[Charles Dye]

I prefer to use x-fades most of the time.

I'm often amazed by sessions I get where it looks like I'm the 1st person to ever zoom in + tab thru the edits on a track. I see some really bad edits sometimes.

PITA to fix, but somebody's gotta do it.

[Oreganmusic]

I`ve seen 'em also...but I guess the important thing is you don't Hear the bad edits! I'll crossfade by ear mostly and leave anything that doesn't show obvious need for the x:Roll eyes:

[PSN Big Al]

In some situations I find that that a quick fade out and then a
quick fade in works better than a x-fade. In fact, I wish there
was an option for a tool that did this like the x-fade one.

[halfguard]

so, would you say its best to.....record my part, make an xfade, then copy and paste as i wish? :grin:

[Charles Dye]

I've found that after eq + comp you often DO hear them in the final mix more times than not. I don't buy into the if ya don't hear them then they're okay excuse.

I'm talking about double attacks, missing attacks, + just plain gaps in sustaining audio. Lazy.

[Oreganmusic]

Yeah i see your point Charles... as a matter of curiosity, when you get all the files for a mix, would u solo tracks, zoom and check and x bad edits before u start to mix? or as i was saying, edit them as you come across rough edits during the mix?..thanks

[slabrock]

If it's possible i'll have the "snap to zero crossing" option on, so i really don't have to worry about snaps and pops, but i use fade ins, fade outs or crossfades most of the time anyway, because of how they sound. I like my silences neat
:D

Peace,

Slabrock

[Stick]

I've found that after eq + comp you often DO hear them in the final mix more times than not. I don't buy into the if ya don't hear them then they're okay excuse.

I'm talking about double attacks, missing attacks, + just plain gaps in sustaining audio. Lazy.

Yeah... MAN! Drives me nuts. I don't get it. The few times I had someone better than me mixing my productions, I was very careful that he didn't have to mess with ANY of that crap, because I know what a drag on the flow it is.