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Starfucker
February 7th, 2007, 07:13 PM
I don't know if this belongs in this thread or in any other thread on this forum, but last week I discovered a little more on how my brain works. Seems like I translate words and maybe some other things into images. My cousin told me about it and it seems like a lot of people don't do that.

So then I started thinking this affects how I record. When I hear a sound I try to make an image of that. When I hear a voice through the speakers, I try to make an image of the situation in which it happens. And I try to make an image of how I want it to be. For example: I want this voice to sound like it's a sad man walking in the rain at night through a small alley... or I want a guitar that sounds annoying or like it's happening in a mental institution... or not.
and that seems to work for me. and I just discovered it last week.

Before I just thought about making all the instruments happen in a nice setting and well balanced so you can hear everything yaddayadda, but now it's like there's a world opening in which the song tells a story... It just became a lot more interesting.


So is there anyone else here who has the same or a totally different but equally insane approach to defining sound? then I'd like to hear about it...











I'm not crazy! ... am I?

PS I think slippy does it...

I see an image of cock and balls everytime it comes up.

thanks a lot

I prefer things that sound like T&A

And I often ask musicians for more sex when they play...

sometimes it works

otek
February 8th, 2007, 03:32 AM
Starfucker,


You are freaking me out. :icon_eek:

And not for the reason you might think...... (images of cocks and balls, etc.)

You see, yesterday I got this really nice idea for a new thread in the RMP forum. I didn't have time to make it right then, so I wrote a little memo and put it on my desktop. This is what it said:

visualization process:

Imagining a sound, and the sound you imagine doesn't come out because you can't bring the sound in your mind into focus, or maintain that focus over a longer period of time.

Is this ability something one is born with? Can it be trained to some degree?

:lol:


Well, needless to say I have some thoughts of my own on this topic, but I'd love to hear what others have to say.

Does one of the secrets to being a successful mixer lie in this very process, that of "visualizing" a sound, and retaining that vision throughout all the distractions of the studio process? Or is the resulting sound entirely dependent on our reaction to what we are actually hearing? How does one strive to go beyond what our ears are telling us right then and there, and into the world of infinite possibilities?



Discuss.


otek


Scary, ainnit?

lebouche
February 8th, 2007, 04:33 AM
I often hear whole new orchestras and symphonies...but they are flowing..I could never stop to write them down or remember them.
I also often listen to people in films and notice when they dont sound like the room they are in...I guess non sound obsessed people dont think about things like that.
Anyway my point is I do picture sounds and those sounds are dictated by their environments which I picture as well...

Carlo
February 8th, 2007, 05:02 AM
This concept is right- dead- center down my alley...in all of my music, when I sing it, I am "seeing" things...and for it to make sense to me, it has to make sense visually.

And to start yer creative process with this type of "visioning" is holding hands with th' Big Guy!:Thumbsup:

Starfucker
February 8th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Give me a week and I'll be able to see the future in my mixes...

But anyway I think the whole thing about art is that it makes you imagine and then feel things.

and I hope this is the secret (or part of the secret) to being a succesful mixer. But I think everyone has his own secret that works for him, or her.

Mixerpuppet
February 8th, 2007, 07:38 PM
I think this is where we separate the tech mixers from the art mixers.

Sound not as a function of sonic content but rather does it represent the vision.

For me it goes both ways...

I hear a sound in my head or a riff etc... and this triggers something in my brain to invision a scene mentally which begins to morph into a story or concept based upon a dream or emotion. Much to most OCD engineers/producers frustration I have found no evidence to support that dreams have a click track or metronomes though occasionally a ticking clock stop when the chainsaws start.

Music to me is a surrealistic representation of what is deepest inside me and not some marketable pop tune to masturbate in public with.

When I mix there is an urge to make it sound dreamy and unnatural. Whether that means violent, sexual etc...

I can't help it....

DPower
February 8th, 2007, 09:47 PM
You talking about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthaesia

Starfucker
February 8th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Yeah some of it... although I spent 29 years of my life not realizing it and therefor not paying attention to it I guess. So some digits and letters are clearly colored, but others are vague.

soldering snakes probably fucked it up too with it's color coding.
Suddenly 5 is supposed to be green instead of blue??? and there's no way 1 is brown. I don't know what it is, but it's definitely not brown.

I'm starting to understand the story of an artist who wanted something to sound like a big yellow balloon.

I don't really mix things to sound surreal, but I imagine situations that could be real... like someone masturbating in public to a poptune.

seems like I have a lot of reading to do. thanks for the link.