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MacGregor
March 7th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Just heard that Phil Collins Calls It A Career in Music (http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/05/phil-collins-apologizes-for-success-as-he-quits-music/) because of health problems.

I know from my dad that a dislocated vertebra, resulting in nerve damage, is something to be carefully with, so I fully understand.

But I'll miss one of my few heroes if he really should retire :Sad:

Mac
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Knastratt
March 7th, 2011, 12:41 AM
This message was made without any appearance of a CMI Fairlight.

Yes - very so sadio.

Cheers - P

E. Shaun
March 7th, 2011, 01:41 AM
Kudos to him for not fading away so much as just saying, "This is it."

I'll remember him best for his work as a drummer with Genesis and Brand X, but you certainly can't knock his legacy as a singer/songwriter either.

Fulcrum
March 7th, 2011, 02:51 AM
Yeah. Noel Gallagher is one to talk.

I knew this was coming, and am rather sad that he had to go out with an album of Motown covers (NTTAWWT Bob) rather than speaking his own voice on what he surely knew would be his last album. Like E Shaun I will remember his work up to and including the eponymously-named Genesis album and Brand X, and how ubiquitous he seemed in the early to mid-80s producing everyone from Frida (from ABBA) and Philip Bailey. That sound left a mark on me, for better or worse, and so did his drumming (for better; he was one of the most inventive drummers alive even when he was touring solo). He started to lose me around about the time Sussudio came out.

He has nothing to apologize for, not even his success.

Knastratt
March 7th, 2011, 02:56 AM
Brand X - Morrocan roll. That's some serious drumming.

eagan
March 7th, 2011, 05:14 AM
Phil Collins as a pop singer/songwriter usually made me retch (even though he still couldn't get away from having a great sense of melody).

I was (still am) a huge Genesis fan although they pretty much lost me, except for the occasional moment here and there, after Steve Hackett bailed.

But one thing still covers all else, and that's that Phil Collins has been one of the best drummers ever to hit things with sticks to make them speak and test drum risers for level with drool.

I think of myself as kind of a connoisseur of great drummers, and Collins is right up there on my list of all time favorite greats.

Shit. That's two of them on my list now retired.

(#1-Bruford)


JLE

E. Shaun
March 7th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Shit. That's two of them on my list now retired.

(#1-Bruford)


Wow...Bruford retired? I must have missed that. :Confused:

Well, at least Neal Peart is still going strong.

I hear Meg White is looking for work though.

Tim Halligan
March 7th, 2011, 02:45 PM
I hear Meg White is looking for work though.

I'm sure there is a low-budget porn film that needs a fluffer somewhere. :headpalm:

The only reason to mention Meg White in the same sentence as Collins and Bruford is so you can sing:

"One of these things is not like the other..."

Cheers,
Tim

tannoy
March 7th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Sad news. But I can't stop wondering... who's giving a shit about what Noel Gallagher says ??? I mean...did he ever say something worth a dime ?


Marco

MacGregor
March 7th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Sad news. But I can't stop wondering... who's giving a shit about what Noel Gallagher says ??? I mean...did he ever say something worth a dime ?


Marco

Yep. No matter whether you like their music or not, Gallagass would make it 3 days in a forum before he'd get banned.
When Aardy's around probably 1 hour :vuvu:

Mac
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Burn em
March 7th, 2011, 04:14 PM
who's giving a shit about what Noel Gallagher says ??? I mean...did he ever say something worth a dime ?


Marco

Yes, He's a fucking legend... Sometimes...

They should be shot. (on the Backstreet Boys)
- Noel Gallagher :Thumbsup::Thumbsup::grin:

Back on topic... I don't think Phil will be able to stay away for long, even if it's in a different form.

dwoz
March 7th, 2011, 05:26 PM
I'm trying at this moment to remember ONE SINGLE NOTE that Noel Gallagher played or wrote.


...trying...



...still trying...



...still trying...


...nope. can't pull one out.




Now, for the next week, I'll try to go ONE FULL DAY without hearing/remembering SOMETHING that Phil C had a hand in....


...damn, today's now shot. maybe tomorrow I'll make it the entire day without hearing/remembering something.


Noel Gallagher isn't qualified to mow the lawn in front of the Pantheon of Rock Guitarists, never mind actually step inside, never mind have a seat in there with his name on it.

Burn em
March 7th, 2011, 05:52 PM
I'm trying at this moment to remember
Noel Gallagher isn't qualified to mow the lawn in front of the Pantheon of Rock Guitarists, never mind actually step inside, never mind have a seat in there with his name on it.

Never said anything about his musical talents! :grin:

I think he's a bloody entertaining chap! Even if he plays thinly disguised Beatles rip offs at times. IMHO we need more people in this industry with strong opinions... wether they be right or wrong or they agree with my world view.

There's way too much fence sitting at the moment. You could never say Noel sat on the fence EVEN if his songs were or were not crash hot.

Not sure how Oasis went over your' side of the pond, they had their moments over here. I do admit to being a partial Oasis fan... Try not to hold that against me...

Quoting Phil

(edit) according to the UK's Daily Telegraph. "I look at the MTV Music Awards and I think, 'I can't be in the same business as this.' I don't really belong to that world... I'm much happier ...

I think Noel and Phil would agree on a lot after reading this.

Goes211
March 7th, 2011, 07:56 PM
I think Noel Gallagher is a smart cookie. He has written many a memorable tune. And he can be really funny. I too like opinionated folks. I don't care whether he's a shit guitarist or not. Oasis at their peak were a kick-ass band.

I think Phil Collins is a smart cookie. He has written many a memorable tune. And he can be really funny. I too like opinionated folks. I don't care whether he's a shit drummer or not. Genesis at their peak were a kick-ass band.

On the other hand, I think Meg White is really shit.

E. Shaun
March 8th, 2011, 12:21 AM
I'm sure there is a low-budget porn film that needs a fluffer somewhere. :headpalm:

The only reason to mention Meg White in the same sentence as Collins and Bruford is so you can sing:

"One of these things is not like the other..."

Cheers,
Tim


Oh god. I hope you knew that I was being facetious when I mentioned Meg White.


Don't get me wrong -- I always enjoyed the White Stripes -- but she's probably the worst drummer to have ever had a gold record.

Barish
March 8th, 2011, 01:23 AM
Yes, He's a fucking legend... Sometimes...

They should be shot. (on the Backstreet Boys)
- Noel Gallagher :Thumbsup::Thumbsup::grin:


The guy is a yob, a crap guitarist, ugly as fuck with a tash growing on the wrong site of his face, and a crap songwriter who had the fortune of making millions in a crap band millions of tone-deaf people thought was the greatest band in the world... for a while, but come on, he's a legend when it comes to cracking some of the funniest lines in my opinion too.

"He [Liam] and Bono start talking to me about God and all that shit, and after five minutes I'm like, that's it I'm off to pub. After fukkin' 10 pints I am God..."

You gotta hand it to the guy :grin:

B.

Johnny
March 8th, 2011, 01:35 AM
.Message from his Forum

"A Message From Phil...


Greetings to all, I've decided to write this in response to the articles that surfaced last weekend regarding my retirement. Why they were printed at all is a mystery, as I haven't spoken to anybody in the press for a few months.

However, many of the articles printed over the last few months have ended up painting a picture of me that is more than a little distorted. Therefore, I would like to add my comments and try to explain again my reasons for calling it a day.

1/ I'm not stopping because of dodgy reviews or bad treatment in the press.

2/ I'm not stopping because I don't feel loved, I know I still have a very large fanbase that loves what I do. Thank you.

3/ I'm not stopping because I don't fit in, this was proved with "Going Back" reaching No 1 in the UK, and doing incredibly well worldwide.

4/ I'm not stopping so I can dive full time into my interest for the Alamo.

I am stopping so I can be a full time father to my two young sons on a daily basis.

Some of the things mentioned above have been said by me in various interviews, but said as asides with a smile on my face and in passing. They were not meant to be "headlines", they were small parts of a conversation. This clearly doesn't come over in print and I should know better.

However, the result is that I have ended up sounding like a tormented weirdo who thinks he was at the Alamo in another life, who feels very sorry for himself, and is retiring hurt because of the bad press over the years.

None of this is true.

Thanks for all your messages on the Forum regarding this stuff, it means a lot that you care.
But there's no need for the straitjacket !

Phil Collins"

ManRoom Studio
March 8th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Oh no he di-in't:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20471616,00.html

The Manroom

vocalnick
March 14th, 2011, 05:19 AM
I think he's a bloody entertaining chap! Even if he plays thinly disguised Beatles rip offs at times.

Oh, he's started disguising them now?