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meLoCo_go
March 23rd, 2011, 10:06 AM
I know the basic rules and exceptions (not that I think about rules when I have to type or speak though:Roll eyes:). But here's the thing that makes me wonder if "will" is used as modal verb, can it be used after if?

weedywet
March 23rd, 2011, 10:12 AM
Too abstract for me

Example?

gronk
March 23rd, 2011, 10:19 AM
Is Weedy wet down under??? :)

RJ Palmer
March 23rd, 2011, 10:26 AM
Yeah, for sure (if I'm understanding you correctly).

Modal verbs are used to express such things as 'the possibilty of doing something', or 'the ability to do something' and so on - some degree of conditionality is built into them.

Take a simple modal sentence: 'I will help you'. You could easily adapt that into a more complicated constructions like 'If you help me with x, I will help you with y'

In fact, these sorts of sentences are used frequently in English.

Knastratt
March 23rd, 2011, 03:25 PM
If will is written it supersedes a verbal. Sorry.

meLoCo_go
March 23rd, 2011, 07:29 PM
Oh, well it seems that I got at least some grasp of the problem but still...
Is it possible to have "if I will do" as a part of grammatically correct sentence?

Fulcrum
March 23rd, 2011, 08:00 PM
Ordinarily an Anglophone would just say "If I do", as the future tense is implied.

PRobb
March 23rd, 2011, 08:43 PM
Oh, well it seems that I got at least some grasp of the problem but still...
Is it possible to have "if I will do" as a part of grammatically correct sentence?
"If" puts you in the conditional so it would should be "if I would".

meLoCo_go
March 23rd, 2011, 08:55 PM
"If" puts you in the conditional so it would should be "if I would".
I know, but you can't be 100% sure:grin:.

weedywet
March 23rd, 2011, 10:52 PM
Ordinarily an Anglophone would just say "If I do", as the future tense is implied.

Mostly, yes

Although because properly the first person pronoun takes 'shall' rather than 'will', you hear a more formal usage occasionally of: 'if I should do that for you, then...'


Probably the more eloquent choice would be "if I were to do that for you..."

curly
March 24th, 2011, 09:19 AM
Thanks for that.
Do we loose it if we don't use it?
I'm feeling a bit stupid when you guys talk all this technical stuff!

Cheers
Curly