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radiationroom
June 28th, 2011, 12:50 AM
....as part of his campaign. If he talks about his kids, then they are fair game.

Lawrence O'Donnell :Thumbsup: is discussing the subject right now including Christie's use of a NJ State helicopter to go from a Republican fund raiser to his son's little league baseball game. Among other things.... :Thumbsup:

radiationroom
June 28th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Thom Hartmann (on his Big Picture cable TV show) is also going off on Christie - same reasons as O'Donnell. Seems like this issue is growing legs.....

PRobb
June 28th, 2011, 02:31 AM
This doesn't speak well for American culture, but I honestly don't think a fat man can make a serious run for president in today's climate.

radiationroom
June 28th, 2011, 09:12 AM
This doesn't speak well for American culture, but I honestly don't think a fat man can make a serious run for president in today's climate.

Is Christie running or is he not? I don't think his weight has much to do with it.

Now in the case of a woman, weight and looks are everything, but with a man, no. Women are 2nd class citizens in regards to appearance trumping intellect and sense. And that is due to the patriarchal nature of western christian society.

G cubed
June 28th, 2011, 09:24 AM
He lacks the knowledge and charisma for starters. He also wears blinders and is not willing to accept alternate solutions to the issues he faces. On top of that, he's a PITA. Years ago, before he became gov, he was the keynote speaker at a 9-11 ceremony at the college I formally worked at. He was long winded and boring, and yes, the riser it was a sagging.

Johnny
June 28th, 2011, 02:03 PM
A Taftesque man can't win. PRobb is right about that. I think he answered the helicopter thing well.

dwoz
June 28th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Basically, it comes down to whether or not your parenting skills are listed on your resume as a "qualification" for being President of the United States.

So far, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney have made a point of their parenting being a key skill.

Since they're so eager to boot out union teachers with seniority on the basis of their "classroom success," it's only normal to review their parenting success, and you can only do that one way.

dwoz
June 28th, 2011, 02:31 PM
I think that the "use of state helicopter" thing is a total non-issue. I feel the same way about the brohuha about Sarah Palin's use of state aviation resources during her very brief tenure as Governor.

The person is not governor from 9:00 to 5:00, monday through friday. Even in a smooth-running "no current crisis" mode, the schedule demands on a governor are significant. There's no way a reasonable person can deny them some reasonable accommodations. Unfortunately, kids grow up fast, and you don't get many chances to see their little league championship game.

Johnny
June 28th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Reviewing Bachmann's parenting success is going to be a full time job!

PRobb
June 28th, 2011, 05:38 PM
He lacks the knowledge

Ignorance does not seem to be a negative in Republican primaries.
In fact, they seem to like it.

Aardvark
June 28th, 2011, 08:14 PM
A Taftesque man can't win. PRobb is right about that.

When was the last time the President was a plus-size fellow and why can't someone from the world's... shall we say best fed nation... become President?

Is the wrong body type now more of an impediment than being a Catholic? (They are all over the Supreme Court mind you)

Hell, you have two Mormons (7 Million in the U.S.) running but by far the largest Christian denomination in the country can't hope that one of theirs can ever win the office... and we know what happened to the only Catholic to make it to 1600 Penn. Ave.:icon_eek::otek:

The weight of a person's ideas is what matters most one would hope.:Confused:

Of course it could be worse.

Stephen Harper could be running your show.:headpalm::headpalm:


Cheers,
Aardvark



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PRobb
June 28th, 2011, 08:58 PM
A Taftesque man can't win. PRobb is right about that. I think he answered the helicopter thing well.

Oooh-Taftesque.
Me likkeee!:lol:

Johnny
June 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM
I think at some point there will come a backlash against all the slickness, and we'll want a big fat slob whose ideas we share. I don't think we've had enough glitz yet for Christie even though his sound bites are conservative porn.

cozmicslop
June 29th, 2011, 09:40 AM
Jabba no bother...

Fat ignorant fuck with bad manners.

Voter: "Mr. Christie, you're cutting funds for public schools yet you send your own kids to private schools. Why aren't your kids being educated in the public schools?"

Gov Christie: "That's none of your business."

Johnny
June 29th, 2011, 01:35 PM
What was the rest of his answer?

radiationroom
June 29th, 2011, 01:41 PM
I think that the "use of state helicopter" thing is a total non-issue. {SNIP} Even in a smooth-running "no current crisis" mode, the schedule demands on a governor are significant. There's no way a reasonable person can deny them some reasonable accommodations.

True. Very true. I'll conceed on this point.

Stephen Harper could be running your show.

Yah. When pigs fly. The Canadians can keep him thank you.

cozmicslop
June 30th, 2011, 05:32 AM
What was the rest of his answer?
Who really gives a shit?

He's an ill mannered ignorant fat fuck. If he can't speak to his constituents any better than that, why the fuck should his fat, greasy, gravy smelling ass get her vote?

bobzilla77
June 30th, 2011, 10:37 PM
The helicopter thing is going to be problematic no matter how he answers it.

I agree it has nothing to do with how he's likely to govern or make decisions. But in a time of severe austerity measures around the country, where government waste is THEE big issue of the day, it just feels wrong.

Just like Wiener's apolitical dick tweets. Actually that was worse because he was caught squirming under the spotlight trying to non-deny/ non-admit to anything. Once you've watched that with your own eyes you wouldn't give the guy five bucks and trust him to come back with a 6-pack. You'll be waiting for him tr come back with no beer and no money only to say "I cannot say with certitude whether the six-pack was actually delivered."

I thought he should have immediately tweeted "Yo America how you like the formunda smell of my NUTZ in yo fukin FACE?" Then the conversation would be about his lack of maturity instead of his lack of credibility. As it is, he's going to be the poster boy for squirmy tuth-evading politicians for the rest of his life.

At least Christie admitted it and paid for it.

Bob Olhsson
July 2nd, 2011, 03:00 PM
I suspect they already know who's running but don't want the Dems knowing who it is or what the platform will be until the last minute.

They knew MaCain was going to lose before October, possibly lots earlier which could even be why they ran Palin. The party has been totally controlled by Madison Avenue since Ronnie Reagan.

dwoz
July 3rd, 2011, 02:36 AM
The party has been totally controlled by Madison Avenue since Ronnie Reagan.

I think that term could be reasonably accused of being an over-generalization.

It is certainly the case though, that there is now a full-time constant "election industry." For the most part, that's Fox network's entire function.

Bob Olhsson
July 3rd, 2011, 03:24 AM
Roger Ailes has been the man behind the curtain starting with Nixon.