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Knastratt
November 12th, 2006, 12:03 PM
Is there someone kind and willing enough to post some 4-bar dist guit rhythm chuggah sound clips in wav format from some of your favourite recordings. Guitar alone.

I need it for A/B-ing my own efforts. Yeah, yeah, I KNOW listening to a guitar off context says jack shit. So maybe I'm not correctly assembled.

Anyone?

otek
November 12th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Of course, it's not up there yet, but waiting a bit for the sound clips to the Slipperman distorted guitar thread will certainly prove worth it.

I cannot think of a finer challenge than to compare your work to that.

Knastratt
November 12th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Oh, they're coming? Ignore my question, I'll gladly wait. Hope there will be a dial-up friendly version, though.

chrisj
November 13th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Sure man, might be worth a laugh. Here's as far as I've got.

Knastratt
November 13th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Great. I'm warming up ol'Berta! I'll breakfast and post.

Knastratt
November 13th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Ok, here's mine.

otek
November 13th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Ok, here's mine.

Knastratt,


Without knowing exactly what you are looking to achieve (or indeed how you've gone about achieving it), I'm taking a flyer here and saying you need a little more up-frontness in what is supposed to be a raw (read: unprocessed) guitar sound.

It sounds like you're miked from a bit of distance, and also not hitting the cabinet very hard. Use the proximity effect of the mic as a weapon here, to get some more low end happening. Also, give the cabinet a little more oomph so it starts moving (not as in vibrating around on the floor mind you!) and contributing to the sound.

Knastratt
November 13th, 2006, 05:43 PM
It's quite in the ballpark of what I envisioned. But I'll gladly take the advice on up-frontness! The bottom is quite shelved down so for lows I only have to back the NEVE lowpass a bit.

Getting closer to the speaker is really hard. Maybe 2 cms can be achieved.

Thanks Big O!

chrisj
November 13th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Mine's also trying to avoid mud but the way I did it was, I went out the effect out of a Marshall 9000 pre very hot into a small 50K/1K transformer. That went back into the pre, all-wet. So I'm not actually driving the speakers any harder (actually I did that over headphones, hence the file name), I'm just hitting a different analog part hard.

I'm looking to do the same thing Otek suggests, get the guitar in closer and bigger. I'd be interested to hear ideas about how I could do that too :)

AxeSlash
November 13th, 2006, 11:05 PM
Woah, another 9001 user?

I should probably get some (really bad) stuff from my 9001 rig up here. Stay tuned.

myrtlebacker
November 14th, 2006, 02:02 AM
Ok, here is a snippety snippet of something I recorded just now. I like the sound, but it'd be interesting to hear the opinion of professional ears.

Knastratt
November 14th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Great - Exactly what I wanted. Thanks. And please keep'em coming. For me this is highly educational.

myrtlebacker
November 16th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Well noone dignified my snippet with an opinion, but in case you like the sound, this was recorded in what the pros call a "low yield scenario" :Razz:

Guitar -> Amp -> DI Box -> Firewire Interface -> G5.

So my advice would be to not dimiss that recording method for distorted guitars right upfront. AFAIK most of the Rammstein guitars are recorded with DI.

chrisj
November 17th, 2006, 02:49 AM
My whole deal with DIing crunch guitars is convolution modeling, now- I have to listen to the shit as I record it in tweeze-tone fizzy-ation, but you don't ever hear the raw track or use it for anything. I run it into SoundHack (which does a free convolution, you supply the impulse and set it up) and convolve it with a speaker cab impulse. What you heard was somebody's recording of a Marshall cab with greenbacks picked up by a SM57. I actually had to hack apart their impulses because they had a stereo impulse with two different kinds of mics every time, plus they didn't top and tail the impulse very well (or at all).

You can get stupid with it by doing things like convolving convolutions of convolutions- I don't do reverbs on the raw guitar track, only on the track*cab, and if I wanted to throw an EQ onto it I might grab one of the many Massive Passive impulses out there and see how that did, making the reverb be reverb*EQ*cab*guitar :D keep saving everything as 24 bit or better, and top and tail the impulses if they're not already!

Mixerpuppet
November 17th, 2006, 06:18 PM
http://www.golgothamedia.net/mp3/leester01.wav

Knastratt
November 17th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Please guys - I'm on a dialup. :icon_eek:

Mixerpuppet
November 17th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Sorry...

I don't have a mp3 maker at work... :(

Unfcknblvbl
November 17th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Sorry...

I don't have a mp3 maker at work... :(

Converted to a crappy .mp3...hope it's good 'nuff for you.

Mixerpuppet
November 17th, 2006, 08:46 PM
Converted to a crappy .mp3...hope it's good 'nuff for you.

heh heh... Thanks :Thumbsup:

Now everyone can feel the pain! :icon_eek:

rockdart
November 17th, 2006, 09:10 PM
Sorry...

I don't have a mp3 maker at work... :(

Got iTunes? There's a converter in there for several file formats.

Mixerpuppet
November 17th, 2006, 09:44 PM
Nope... No i-tunes...

No cells...

no camera...

Alot of the multimedia stuff has been disabled...

They even took my dvd burning capability...

Next time I'll just wait until I get home...

FajitaTone
November 17th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Nope... No i-tunes...

No cells...

no camera...

Alot of the multimedia stuff has been disabled...

They even took my dvd burning capability...

Next time I'll just wait until I get home...

sucks to work in a prison now, don't it? :Wink:

Mixerpuppet
November 17th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhhush!


Man I need a donut...

Knastratt
November 18th, 2006, 02:28 AM
Thanks. This is not really for comparison more than having a database of possible sound options. To make it complete it would be nice to post the chain as well.

Mine was.

Custom Tele w Seymor Duncan Alan Holdsworth in bridge pos->THD UniValve (NOS Telefunken ECC 81x2 & NOS Mullard EL 34)->Randall IsoBox->SM 57->AMEK CIB->Lucid/RME.

Some UAD 1176 and some UAD NEVE 1073. No EQ, but a tad compression on the CIB.

Mixerpuppet
November 20th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Thanks. This is not really for comparison more than having a database of possible sound options. To make it complete it would be nice to post the chain as well.



Oh....

Mine was/is....

Ibanez "powersound" humbuckers in stock Ibanez Rg350, plugged into a Marshall JCM800 2205 Lead head (6550 GT's) and a JCM900 1960A. The mic is a SM57 on the grill 1/2 way between edge and cone.... all inside a box with blankets galore to remove air :) Studiomaster P7 Simulated Mixer with no dynamic processing, efx are lexicon.. delay/verb whatever...

Does that redeem me?

I still have no reputation.... :Sad:

chrisj
November 21st, 2006, 08:07 AM
I was trying to get it bigger plus with less rattiness. Dunno how well it worked...

Cosmic Pig
November 21st, 2006, 01:47 PM
Well shee-it I have no idea what you guys are talking about... Guitar sounds? How bout three mics, hint of verb... no efx/eq/comp... strat-redknob twin-leslie cab.

http://members.shaw.ca/cosmicpigstudios/leslienoodles.mp3 Kinda boxy I thought but I'll get it figured.

Cos.