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David Aurora
April 3rd, 2007, 09:25 AM
anyone know how it works? is it worthwhile? im fucking stumped here trying to find any info on selling music on itunes

April 3rd, 2007, 09:30 AM
um well somehow cape III got up there - i think by putting a cd on cdbaby or something?

April 3rd, 2007, 12:27 PM
anyone know how it works? is it worthwhile? im fucking stumped here trying to find any info on selling music on itunes

Have a look at CD Baby (http://www.cdbaby.com/).
Once you've subscribed as an artist your music will be available on itunes and others.

See here (http://cdbaby.net/) for more details.


April 3rd, 2007, 02:23 PM
a reason i still really dig cd baby is that they can sell physical cd's for you, they can set up digital distribution, and do a few extras. it's even such that should you opt in to the digital distribution with them (which i'd recommend) then they provide many other online music sellers with your work without you having to do any extra work. that includes snocap, the folks who have the imbedded music stores for myspace. so with a single cdbaby account you can sell cd's, be on itunes, sell directly on myspace, etc. i think it's a sweet deal.

David Aurora
April 3rd, 2007, 02:41 PM
thats really looking like the way to go so far, and it means i can get my record out digitally at least, until i get some cash together for a pressing

April 3rd, 2007, 04:58 PM
There's also a thread over in Bob's forum where Tunecore is being discussed. A major difference between that and CD Baby is that Tunecore only takes a flat fee annually rather than a commission. Might be a viable alternative. I'm looking into that right now as a matter of fact for when I drop my record.

April 3rd, 2007, 05:08 PM
Yeah, I was involved in a spirited discussion on another forum re. Tunecore v. CD Baby.

It seems like Tunecore is a better deal if you're likely to sell a lot of downloads, like hundreds.

CD Baby is a better deal if you sell CDs and downloads in the tens, since their setup fee is one-time, and their per-CD cut is $4 US.

Also, CD Baby's Derek Sivers is highly regarded among the singer-songwriters I know; they agree he's an honest, righteous dude. He's very active in providing sales strategies for his artists, too.

CD Baby needs a few physical CDs from you (which can be "burned" copies) while Tunecore requires an mp3 upload along with album art files.

Your call, really.

April 3rd, 2007, 06:04 PM
things i don't know about tunecore (since musicians might not have presented the arguments for or against cdbaby vs tunecore well in a proper apple vs apple way) are things like...

does tunecore get you to as many different digital distribution outlets as cdbaby does? that's kind of important.

does tunecore provide those extra services like ways for their members to get credit card machines for thier shows?

i am feeling almost kind of "loyal" to cdbaby because i truly believe that derek has been doing the right thing for bands all along, and i'll happily take a proper honest ally in this business of ours. and i don't sell tons of music online (i'm spending pretty much all my time engineering, not being a musician anymore) so not having to pay yearly fees like snocap or tunecore require is a nice thing. yes, cd baby is apparently a little more per download on average, but they also do things like arrange for artists to get MORE when their work is distributed via snocap through the cdbaby arrangement. so it's tricky to compare.

in my case, they've done me right all along, and cdbaby is the kind of company i want to work with so i think i'm going to stick it out with them. but yes, it is worthwhile to check out all the options.

John Suitcase
April 3rd, 2007, 06:38 PM
I've used theorchard.com (http://theorchard.com) in the past, they are affiliated with e-music, and get you on itunes, aol, all kinds of mobile phone networks, etc. - a whole mess of sites. Downsides include the cost (a little higher than CDbaby) and at the time, it took a few months to get your tracks processed. They may have improved that now, though.

Back before tunecore and cdbaby, theorchard was the only game in town. They have label rates, too, if you're planning to release a whole bunch of stuff...

Bob Olhsson
April 3rd, 2007, 07:26 PM
$4 a CD is a LOT of money.

You only need to sell ten for Tunecore to be cheaper. If you aren't likely to sell more than 10, why bother in the first place?


April 3rd, 2007, 08:19 PM
4 bucks is a lot, and that's for actual cd sales. digital sales are 9% total so you get 91% of your price tag without having to mess with yearly fees or other hassles. that seems ok to me, and i'm selling more digital tracks than physical cds.

April 3rd, 2007, 09:23 PM
Yes, the $4 applies only to physical CDs.

And CD Baby does get you on more digital services than Tunecore, currently.

April 3rd, 2007, 11:01 PM
I've used theorchard.com (http://theorchard.com) in the past, they are affiliated with e-music, and get you on itunes, aol, all kinds of mobile phone networks

I got a reply from Apple pointing me to the Orchards Australian branch a while back. http://www.ampheadmusic.com should do the trick for you.


April 4th, 2007, 03:13 AM
I've dealt w/ both CDbaby and the orchard, preferred the experience w/ cdbaby although when I did the orchard, they were the only game in town and that was a good 10 years ago or so. CDbaby was definitely easy to use and I've gotten pretty good response from just having things out there.