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CurtZHP
April 22nd, 2007, 12:06 AM
And it's not getting any better.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blueangels.crash/index.html


:Cry:

Joel DuBay
April 22nd, 2007, 12:11 AM
And it's not getting any better.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blueangels.crash/index.html


:Cry:





It's CNN, so they'll probably blamed it on Bush.




Joel
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Spock
April 22nd, 2007, 12:29 AM
Damn, that sucks. I'm going to be hearing about this for a bit.

gabby garcia
April 22nd, 2007, 03:20 AM
:Sad:
gg

nobby
April 22nd, 2007, 05:07 AM
It's CNN, so they'll probably blamed it on Bush.




Joel
Acoustics Geek
Bass Traps (http://www.readyacoustics.com)


He had an airtight alibi -- he was playing golf all month.

nobby
April 22nd, 2007, 05:45 AM
On an F-18, you have two motors, and if they take [a bird] in the engine, it could cause engine failure and shut that down," he said. He said the plane is capable of flying in excess of 450 mph.

No shit. I'd say 1,127 MPH is in excess of 450 MPH.

Most of the stunts seem to be under Mach I, like the opposing solos, which, not withstanding the ability of a telephoto lense to collapse apparent distance, seem rather too close for comfort... and that's still a combined airspeed of about 1,000 MPH.

Birds? I saw the show at Jones Beach last May, and the gulls and terns knew enough to hunker down and watch the show from a safe distance. Truth is, there is basically no margin for error. What Steve Irwin was to wildlife, these guys are to aviation. Am I wrong? I guess the investigation will tell the tale. Regardless, it's a tragedy :Sad:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m63/jonnewyork/BlueAngles13_2.jpg

CurtZHP
April 22nd, 2007, 01:56 PM
I heard a report recently that someone speculated that the pilot suffered a g-force induced loss of consciousness, bascially blacking out. This was his first year as a demo pilot, so he's only been flying as a Blue Angel for a few months. (Their winter training starts in January and runs until the season opener in mid-March.)

Unlike all other fighter pilots, the Blue Angels fly without G-suits, which help the pilot withstand high-g's. Using the suits makes it difficult, if not impossible, to safely fly in such ridiculously tight formation. So, BA pilots have to get a waiver and undergo additional high-g training.

You're right. There is no margin for error.

This is tough. These guys are my heroes, and even for a fat old fart like me, it sure puts things in perspective when you're brutally reminded of the mortality and fallability of your heroes.

It's not like this guy was mad at the world because some girl looked at him cross-eyed and he wanted to go out in a blaze of carnage, or he was bent out of shape because of a bad job performance report. (Like two other people who are getting way too much press.) It's not like he was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. He was arguably at the pinnacle of his career, surrounded by people who loved him, and doing something truly worthwhile.

Something just went horribly wrong.

(swallows hard...)

G. Hoffman
April 22nd, 2007, 04:35 PM
One of the guys who works in my shop used to have a nephew who flew in the Blue Angels. We have a signed poster up in the shop from that team, though this is of course a completely different group of pilots these days.

But the CNN article said this guy had been in the squad for 2 years, and though it was his first show doing demonstrations, you can be sure he was well prepared for his job. The training those guys go through is quite rigorous. It is, I think, safe to say that this will turn out to have been a tragic accident, there is no reason to suspect any lack of training or preparation from any of the pilots.


Gabriel

Joel DuBay
April 22nd, 2007, 07:20 PM
G.

I just played yet ANOTHER one of your awesome guitars at The Podium. Man, your stuff just gets better and better.


Cheers to a fine craftsmanship and sound!



Joel DuBay
www.readyacoustics.com