Weird things with Protools

[malice]

I had to prepare a mix session from something i produced (I am not the mixer).

I have all tracks in Nuendo. I consolidated them in order to get them readable in Protools. I did this in Aiff 24bit/44.1 kHz.
All them trx have same starting points. I use a mac.

I printed DVDs with that and sent them in Miami (no, it is not Charles who will mix this album).

The mixer could import tracks from the dvds directly, but couldn't import them if he transfered them first on his hard drive.

Protools wouldn't recognise the format of the files from his Hard drive, only from the DVD. He is using a mac as well.


Weird...

Does this makes sense to one of you computer geeks ?

malice

[Brendo]

But he managed to import the tracks, nonetheless?

[Skwaidu]

Sounds pretty weird. Could it be OS X? Sometimes I have seen data files out of a DVD or CD get rebranded as "read only", maybe Alsi has trouble importing those? (I haven't tried, I don't know)

Hmm. Both computers were OS X?

[malice]

Hmm. Both computers were OS X?

yes


malice

[malice]

But he managed to import the tracks, nonetheless?



directly from the DVDs, yes, still I wanna know what happened for the future, you know

malice

[Bob Olhsson]

There's a Mac OS bug that turns files copied from a CD or DVD into read-only. I'd guess the problem is related to that.

[digiengineer]

I had to prepare a mix session from something i produced (I am not the mixer).

I have all tracks in Nuendo. I consolidated them in order to get them readable in Protools. I did this in Aiff 24bit/44.1 kHz.
All them trx have same starting points. I use a mac.

I printed DVDs with that and sent them in Miami (no, it is not Charles who will mix this album).

The mixer could import tracks from the dvds directly, but couldn't import them if he transfered them first on his hard drive.

Protools wouldn't recognise the format of the files from his Hard drive, only from the DVD. He is using a mac as well.


Weird...

Does this makes sense to one of you computer geeks ?

malice

It sounds like a permissions issue, without his system specs, I wouldn't know what else to tell you.

Also, as far as I'm concerned AIFF is dead format, especially if you have projects jumping from studio to studio. As the gap between Mac and PC has shrunk, more people are using PCs for audio (my PTHD system is currently on a PC).

[Comte de St Germain]

It sounds like a permissions issue, without his system specs, I wouldn't know what else to tell you.

Also, as far as I'm concerned AIFF is dead format, especially if you have projects jumping from studio to studio. As the gap between Mac and PC has shrunk, more people are using PCs for audio (my PTHD system is currently on a PC).


Yep, permissions...

BWAV of the future.

The mixer isn't C.S. is he?

[otek]

There's a Mac OS bug that turns files copied from a CD or DVD into read-only. I'd guess the problem is related to that.

Yeah, had that happen too. It's an easy fix - just get infos on the whole folder, change permissions and make it apply to all files and subfolders. But it is a pain in the ass nonetheless.

[malice]

Yep, permissions...

BWAV of the future.

The mixer isn't C.S. is he?

nope


malice

[Bob Olhsson]

...as far as I'm concerned AIFF is dead format, especially if you have projects jumping from studio to studio....More important, if you have files you want to be able to use without needing to find a way to convert ten or twenty years from now.

BWF is an actual international broadcast file interchange standard that everything should be able to talk to for years to come. It's just like the IEC/CCIR/NAB standards for magnetic tape recording. DAWs that don't support BWF don't get purchase orders from post and broadcast facilities.

They are working on a new standard that will permit unlimited file sizes but BWF is still far more future-proof than AIFF. And that's not to mention the ticking time-bomb known as SD2.

All BWF files have time-stamps and lots of space for notes. There's no reason you couldn't have a DAW application that simply uses the data native to BWF eliminating proprietary EDL files altogether. It would just open up everything that's in the same folder. At that point digital audio files will be as compatible as tape!

[malice]

You guys are craking me up with your "format of the future"

I'm gazing at the prodigy recorder rotening in the control room, right after the DASH recorder that was supposed to be forrever, then there is an old mixplus that was recording the everlasting SD II ...

huh ...

We might want to refrain from making plans like "this time this format is forever", because by the time AIFF will be forgoten, I'm not sure I will be able to mount the drive where I safely converted everything in Bwav :D

thanx to all ;)

malice

[Bob Olhsson]

The broadcasters are dragging the computer and electronics manufacturers kicking and screaming into non-proprietary future-proof formats because they got screwed over by things like DASH.

Bwav is designed to work just fine on Unix or anything else.

AIFF has no time stamp or meta-data which means that without a compatible EDL file you're screwed unless every file begins at the same time.

I'm able to go back and forth between Mac Pro Tools, PeeCee Pro Tools and Samplitude all day long thanks to BWF.

[malice]

I'm able to go back and forth between Mac Pro Tools, PeeCee Pro Tools and Samplitude all day long thanks to BWF.


Ok, then BWF it is, until further noticed.

thanx Bob

malice

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

I´m still doing most of my stuff with SD2 files but I understand it is also a dead format, specially concerning Fs>48khz.

However, at least in my (very reliable) system, I come across weird behavior when I want to use the "save session copy in" function when a session is Wave.

This never happens when it is SD2. No matter what I do,(change HDs, defrag, etc) the backup process generally fails.

System: Mix4 Os 9.2 PT 5.1.3 TDM 3 Adat bridges G4800QS
1GB RAm 02R96V2 01V96.