Losing perspective.

[Brendo]

How's the mix on this? I've lost perspective. Also, the tuning of the vocals, and can you hear anything else that needs editing?[/URL]

[URL]http://68.146.204.100/brendo/freakshow26nov.mp3 (http://68.146.104.100/brendo/freakshow26nov.mp3)

[J.G.]

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So, I'd say the overall volume levels are on the low side... :Razz:

; J

[otek]

If I said this sounds better than your last one, that would be quite a slag, wouldn't it? :P

[Brendo]

Oh, BALLS.

http://68.146.204.100/brendo/freakshow26nov.mp3

Can a moderator please edit this into the top post?

[dwoz]

sorry, brendo...tried a couple times, but the link never came up.


dwoz

[Mixerman]

How's the mix on this? I've lost perspective. Also, the tuning of the vocals, and can you hear anything else that needs editing?

http://68.146.204.100/brendo/freakshow26nov.mp3

I generally reserve the dry vocal treatement for exceptional singers. Plus, given the the halting nature of this melody, along with the nature of the track, I would considering giving her some reverb and/or some delay. I can't give you any specific treatement, because I would probably try every combination known to man until I found a treatment that I felt set this fairly weak-kneed voice adequately into this track. That's the kind of voice I'd expect to hear with an acoustic guitar, not with such large guitars. Therefore, I'd try doubling ithe vocal with a 60ms delay. I'd try a 250ms slap. I'd try a longer delay with some tail. I'd USE a plate, but I'm guessing you don't actually have a real plate available. And I'd try a combination of three of those. Pick three. Any three.

All this is coming from a mixer that isn't big on using digital effects. But when something calls for it, answer.

Enjoy,

Mixerman

[Brendo]

Cheers MM.

I did have more reverb on it, but then I started to get into tuning bits and pieces here and there, so I turned it down - forgot to turn it back up. Coincidentally it was the "plate" that comes in Dverb (the default Alsihad reverb). Same verb that's on that snare there.

She actually did want to doubletrack, but we ran out of time - 3 songs in two days was a bit of a struggle for me. She's aware of the shortcomings of her voice - she used to be the backing vocalist in this band before the lead singer fell off the wagon and back into rehab.

How are the rest of the sounds?

There are 3 songs from the session, one is a piano+band original, the other is a ben harper/blind boys of alabama cover... "well well well", but done in an uptempo "When the Levee breaks" kinda style...

[dwoz]

Through the meat of the verses, the bassist is doing his level best to set up a triplet-tinged backbeat, but nobody's returning his serve.

Seems to me you've got two or three "centers" trying to be the groove, and they're competing with each other.

figure out which one is going to win, and make the other parts serve it.

dwoz

p.s. I like the tune. I like the vox.

[Brendo]

The verses are the loud bits, right?

I think you're referring to the choruses - is it a bad thing that you're getting those switched around?

BTW - the bassist was a guitarist brought in for the session.

[Brendo]

From the singer:

Hey there BT!

On closer listening, that ‘weird bit’, (2.54mins) is me hitting a bad noteJ-did you use a different vocal track for that bit? Overall I think it sounds pretty good. Bass is PHAT! The mix sounds a little cold maybe but you probably had to compress it a fair bit. The jury (me) is still out on whether the backing vocs are up too high but the guys like it so I’ll keep listening and give it more of a chance. No doubt impressions from the guys will trickle in as they listen more, will keep you posted…

kim


Hey there!

I’ve listened some more, and sent it up to my brother who is a professional singer/actor and makes his living with his voice. He thinks the band sounds great, (and at this stage the guys agree) but the vocals are a bit too cold – a bit like a desk mix where the vocals come through really dry. He suggests that the backing vocs are actually at the right volume, but the lead vocs need to come up just a touch, with a tiny (tiny) bit of reverb on to wet it up a bit. He’s thinking something like early Pretenders where they warmed up her bottom end. Does this make sense?

…and can you drop another track in on the lead voc on that weird ‘tha-a’ at 2.54mins?



BLOODY DEMANDING VOCALISTS!!!