MiX iT! 1c – Download It

[Charles Dye]

The files are NO LONGER available for download. We are mixing for the rest of the week, and the mixers will be posting their mixes Mon, Sept 3, 2007.

If you missed this round, please join us next time. But there is still plenty to learn:

Please visit the Post It thread (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4373) to hear the possibly 79 mixes posted from people all around the world.

Then join in on the discussions in the following threads:

Drums + Bass (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4378)

Guitars + Keys (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4379)

Lead + BG Vox (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4380)

The Big Picture (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4381) (overall balance, stereo buss processing, automation + misc.)


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MiX iT Event #1 - Mixing

Sponsored by Kagi Media (http://kagimedia.com) and Auraleo Advanced Learning (http://auraleo.com)


Sign ups are now closed + we'd like to thank all of you who signed up for the very first MiX iT Event!

In this thread you will find the links to download the files needed for the Mixing phase. With this event we are aiming for a real world approach, with deadlines + an artist/producer who's vision you are being asked to turn into a record.


Timeframe

- You have 2 weeks starting now until Monday, September 3rd 2007 to complete your mix.

- We do not want you to upload your mix during these 2 weeks. There will be a dedicated thread for this starting on Monday, September 3rd 2007 at which point you will have 48 hours to upload your MIX, until Wednesday, September 5th 2007.


The Song

The song you are about to MIX and which has won the submissions poll is:

Simple Little Bird - by Aces High

xxx

Aces High on MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/aceshighnz) + purevolume (http://www.purevolume.com/aceshighnewzealand)

Thank you very much Aces High for providing the multitrack masters of your song + allowing us to mix it. You guyz rock!!


MiX iT RULES

Imagine the following scenario : You get a phone call from one of the band members from Aces High. They want you to mix a track called 'Simple Little Bird'. All tracking and editing has been done and now they want YOU to do a great MIX for them. And that is exactly what we want you to do ... MiX iT.

1. Do your mix using the artist/producer's mix notes as a guide (see below).

2. You can MiX the song using any tools you like (software or hardware).

3. NOT allowed are the following :

- Time and / or Pitching tools.
- Samples

This event is about Mixing, and that is what we want to focus on. While these tools may or may not find their way into your daily workflow, it is our strong opinion that these are not mixing tools. Anyone can replace a source with a sample. We think however that there is way more to learn by working on and with the source files as they come. This event is first and formost a learning experience.

4. The only 'editing' exception we would like to allow is this : You can make creative arrangement decisions as long as you use the original audio files.

5. You will provide us with a stereo mix (m4a, m4p, or AAC @ 160 Kbps) and a zipped version of your project/session file (if mixed with DAW), or jpgs of hardware settings (if mixed on console + OBG).


Mix Notes

We believe our best mixes almost always happen when we work together with an artist +/or producer to help them realize their vision. Not to say they aren't interested in our ideas, that's why they have to come to us in the first place. But working closely with an artist can really bring musical clarity to a mix.

So, to help you in this real world mixing exercise we've asked Aces High to provide you with mix notes of how they envision the finished mix, along with a reference mix of the song (both included with the download).

The notes + ref mix will give you a great starting point on where to go. But the artist doesn't want you to simply copy the reference mix, it is smiply there to answer any questions you may have of how they felt some of the balances should go. We encourage you very much to put your own spin on it. Just like in the real world.

Mix Notes from Aces High

Muse would be a good artist to reference for us, especially their latest album.

Vocal Harmonies during last chorus of simple bird are quite similar to end chorus of the Muse song Nights Of Cydonia. So i think it is worth checking out some Muse Recordings, as Aces High are influenced by this band quite a bit.

I think an even representation of the two guitars and bass guitar is essential as the three are often playing different parts of the chord. The over all sound of the mix needs to capture the intensity of the song.

More open raw sounding as opposed to tight over processed sound. Led Zeppelin not Linkin Park. BUT this area can be left a little / a lot up to the mixer's interpretation. We are quite keen to hear both ends of the spectrum.

The dynamics of song need to rise and fall according to verse chorus bridge etc and build to last chorus etc.

Thanks for mixing our song!
Download Info

In order to proceed you will have to download the audio files using the link below.

- Download size : zipped approx. 492 Mb
- After unzipping you will find 35 rendered contiguous multi-track mono audio files - 44.1k / 24 bits; a stereo reference mix of the song; and the artist/producer's mix notes. Total size : approx. 750 Mb.
- The files will be available for download for only 1 week until Monday, August 27th 2007.


You may download the file ONLY if your name is in the sign up list below.


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Participants

Here's the list of MiLaR Event #1 participants. (listed in order they signed up)

All participants listed below have agreed to the terms listed in the MiLaR Event #1- Sign Up to Mix (http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?t=4196) thread.

If your name is not listed and you did signup or if your name is listed by mistake and you do not wish to be a part of this event please send a private message to Charles Dye and / or Chris Lambrechts.

1. Brendo
2. Southboundloco
3. Dynamik Studios
4. CaptainHook
5. Moonrider
6. LIMiT
7. Baddo
8. waterboy
9. nobby
10. wkrienke
11. dgbt
12. srvenable
13. ryst
14. studjo
15. jdub
16. magicchord
17. SimonT
18. Ashley Smith
19. CJWall
20. Smlamb
21. Audio~Geek
22. KPHayes
23. gbacklin
24. badboymusic
25. billins
26. st Robert
27. Watershed
28. EyreSpace
29. fedelien
30. dikledoux
31. Mikey MTC
32. MicTayler
33. Daunt
34. Amopae
35. zombie69
36. meLoCo_go
37. Skwaidu
38. Infernokyo
39. ArtGarceau
40. SuicideNote
41. Elarreal
42. Zooloop
43. knightsy
44. velvet
45. DirtyGirth
46. Dino
47. chrisj
48. Dr. Bob
49. Produce_dept
50. Home Recording Odyssey
51. DeMontague
52. McManus
53. Luteboy
54. Evil Jack
55. Gokul
56. Prschmitt
57. MKZ
58. h1studio
59. Mpeguero143
60. Delcy
61. bryandaste
62. IntelDoc
63. esteso
64. nedleigh
65. tonewheels
66. Nomie
67. danbee
68. 5down1up
69. Pharns
70. C_F_H_13
71. Mixerman
72. Krid
73. Dwoz
74. Björn Cornelius
75. MikeC
76. Comte de St Germain
77. Pimp-X
78. waltmid
79. seawell


Let's start mixing + learning!!

Thanx,
Chris + Charles

[CaptainHook]

Downloading now...
Thanks Charles and Chris!

[C_F_H_13]

downloaded the files, no problems.

Everything sounds good! I especially am digging the "Squash" track. Can't wait till tomorrow to actually get started on it.

[prschmitt]

Thanks from me too, Charles and Chris!
Downloaded and imported as we speak.
Sounds nicely tracked to these newbie ears on first listen, also.
Somebody knew what they were doing!
:D

[MacGregor]

MiLaR Event #1 - MIX IT


Here's the list of MiLaR Event #1 participants. (listed in order they signed up)

[...ass long list of participants removed...]



Wow, 75 mixerdoods :Thumbsup:

So, if everyone's serious about that event everyone has to listen and to comment on 74 mixes. That's some serious work, especially after you've already heard that song a zillion times during your mix session.

I take my virtual hat off to everyone who invests his or her time for that. You all rule!

Mac

[CaptainHook]

So, if everyone's serious about that event everyone has to listen and to comment on 74 mixes.

After seeing how many people signed up, i was starting to
wonder about that also. It was hard enough for me to find
the time to listen to all the cape tracks and there's some i
STILL haven't gotten to.
I'll do my best though..

[Ashley Smith]

Cheers all, dl'ing now. :)

[Brendo]

i wonder how the voting will be done, then... i dont think you can do 75 option polls on this forum software...

[ryst]

Downloading now.....Good times!

[Dynamik Studios]

Woohoo:Surprised: Downloading now. It's going to be rough finding time to get this mix done, but I'll do it. I'm going to school full time, and working full time. There's always room to mix music though.

My understanding is that this isn't a competition. So, there's no point in a voting system. This is to learn from each other. If I hear a mix and I like how it sounds or the person did something unique that I'd like to know how they did it I'd look at their session. That's my understanding of this mix event. Also if there's something that's wrong with my mix I could have someone check out my mix to see where they think I may have messed up. I think it would be beneficial that when we post up our sessions to include the DAW we used and what plug-ins.

[nobby]

DL'd and importing...

[Baddo]

...MIX IT RULES

Yes it does!

[chrisj]

There's a great opportunity here- rarely does a mixer get 75 critiques no matter how cursory. The reason is, people rarely critique at all, they just throw a mix out and then go away again...

I say hold everybody to the rule of you must give feedback. I've done it for large mixfests though never as big as this- expect it to be as big a job as the actual mix is, save some energy for that. There should be a deadline for the crits too but you've gotta give people time as it's the same kind of time investment.

[esteso]

Hmm, I wonder if it's worth it to mix it in LE. I'm not really familiar with LE but I want to learn it. I could use a LOT more plugs etc. in Logic or DP and have no track limitations etc. but my sessions won't be compatible with what most people here are using.

Any opinions?

thx

[fedelien]

Downloaded & Imported...
Thanks Charles and Chris for the MiLaR Event.

[Charles Dye]

I say mix it in whatever platform you are the most comfortable with for this 1st time around.

And you're all very welcome.

[waterboy]

:Thumbsup: :very happy: :Thumbsup:

[nobby]

Thanx to Aces High for giving us a bunch ov VERY usable trax.

I'm kind of olde skool myself, but I wouldn't dream of sound replacing anything here. Or oughta tooning, beet detecting :grin:

Nice work, guys :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup:

[danbee]

Great tracks! Already downloaded them, imported them and got a rough mix going.

[Chris Lambrechts]

AWESOME ......... can't wait until these 2 weeks or over and hear the results.

Thanks everyone for the nice comments.


Chris

[Pimp-X]

You know...

I have been a bit out of the loop lately what with this and that happening in that Real Life thing. You know, gets right in the way of this online thing sometimes, eh?

Anyway, I'm catching up with MIX IT.. and I finally hear the Simple Little Bird track.

See, something about the title made a bell go off in my head.. then I heard it.

And realised that I've FOH'ed Aces High more times than some people have had hot dinners!

Crazyness! Hehehe!

Just thought I'd share that with ya.

:)

[Charles Dye]

Aces High on MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/aceshighnz) + purevolume (http://www.purevolume.com/aceshighnewzealand).

[waltmid]

I'm in - downloading now!

Northwaystudios.com

[Watershed]

Just created the session and pulled a quick mix.
I notice that the vocals in particular seem to have eq and some fx printed to them. There's definitely some kind of distortion effect printed on at least the lead vocal.
Doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose?

I haven't touched eq on the guitars or vocals and they sound pretty darn good as they are.

[Brendo]

they may have tracked with that stuff on?

[southboundloco]

Just created the session and pulled a quick mix.
I notice that the vocals in particular seem to have eq and some fx printed to them. There's definitely some kind of distortion effect printed on at least the lead vocal.
Doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose?

I haven't touched eq on the guitars or vocals and they sound pretty darn good as they are.

i think there was effects printed on the vox track on the bridge part...yeah it would have been nice if it was clean but thats the band's decision i got it that way but the rest of the vox/bv tracks are raw.

enjoy!:D

SBL

[MicTayler]

Download'n now, let circus begin! :very happy:

[danbee]

I've started keeping a diary of sorts on my website, if anybody is remotely interested in following my progress in the next few weeks.

Read it here: http://www.pixelhum.com/

[Charles Dye]

Very cool, Dan.

[magicchord]

...I notice that the vocals in particular seem to have eq and some fx printed to them. There's definitely some kind of distortion effect printed on at least the lead vocal...

That's the MixermanTM Method of Tracking:

Tie the mixer's hands!!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[Mixerman]

That's the MixermanTM Method of Tracking:

Tie the mixer's hands!!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You got it.

Enjoy,

Mixerman

[Charles Dye]

That's the MixermanTM Method... Tie the mixer's hands!!!!!!

MM S+M

:Twisted: :icon_eek: :Twisted:

[meLoCo_go]

I've started keeping a diary of sorts on my website, if anybody is remotely interested in following my progress in the next few weeks.

Read it here: http://www.pixelhum.com/

You stole my idea:) We'll see how it turns out!

[Chris Lambrechts]

I've started keeping a diary of sorts on my website, if anybody is remotely interested in following my progress in the next few weeks.

Read it here: http://www.pixelhum.com/

Wicked !!!! ... :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup: keep it up ... very cool initiative.


Chris

[C_F_H_13]

2 questions:

1. After we've finished our mixes, should we do a "pseudo mastering" on them so we can all be relatively close in level for comparison? Or maybe with and without?

2. I know we all agreed on no samples, but what about, for example, using a sample of the snare in the session ONLY AS A TRIGGER FOR FX SENDS, and not actually being heard? Is that cool or still out?

[IntelDoc]

I was going to ask if we can use the actual snare tracks, but pick the best hit and use that to our taste. I see that some edits in prep look to have been down as some hits are the same towards the end. Kick drum really bites, but that is just my taste and can work with it. The vocal part where it is hammered appears to be the desired effect that they wanted for the song. Fits too for the most part. The effect at the beginning cracks me up as it is so messed the warbling digital side comes out. Want wind, use a better sample, not a dither plug to make it sound so digital. ;-)

Oh well, it will be fun anyways.

Doc

[magicchord]

Would it be okay if I replaced the lead vocal using AT&T Labs Text-To-Speech (http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php)?

[Chris Lambrechts]

2 questions:

1. After we've finished our mixes, should we do a "pseudo mastering" on them so we can all be relatively close in level for comparison? Or maybe with and without?




No pseudo mastering please. I think we're all grown up enough to know that it is NOT about the loudest Mix. If we want to listen to the mixes at a relatively close level to each other we will Turn them UP (http://www.turnmeup.org/) :Thumbsup:

We want your 'naked' mixes.



2. I know we all agreed on no samples, but what about, for example, using a sample of the snare in the session ONLY AS A TRIGGER FOR FX SENDS, and not actually being heard? Is that cool or still out?

Creative use of any source material that comes directly from the provided tracks is totally cool. :Thumbsup:


Chris

[Charles Dye]

Would it be okay if I replaced the lead vocal using AT&T Labs Text-To-Speech (http://public.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php)?

Yeah, that's fine... we just meant no DRUM samples.

[IntelDoc]

So Charles, where do you want this thing when we are done?

Did I miss that part in the fine print? ;-)

[Brendo]

No pseudo mastering please. I think we're all grown up enough to know that it is NOT about the loudest Mix. If we want to listen to the mixes at a relatively close level to each other we will Turn them UP (http://www.turnmeup.org/) :Thumbsup:

We want your 'naked' mixes.

I tend to mix loudish - like late 90's mastered loudness. Too loud?

[Charles Dye]

B, you can mix it as loud as you like, but what we're suggesting is, don't slap an L1 or 2 across it when your done to make it as loud as My Sum 182. Just post your unmastered or unlimited mix.

Intel, don't post your mix until Sept 3 + ONLY in the dedicated thread we'll create for every1s mixes.

[IntelDoc]

Got ya...

Out of curiousity... The "A Squash" Track looks funny. Never seen all the wave forms go SOUTH, and the Top ones pretty much limited to hell. Is that just the way it was compressed? I have hammered stuff, but never seen it that way before? Just curious.

Doc

[Brendo]

Is it just me or is Room 1 panned opposite to the OH's?

Also, too many tracks for PTLE!

[Charles Dye]

Print submixes.

[meLoCo_go]

I have a complaint about snare top being clipped somethere at the process... Just look closely at the wave. So top end seems a bit piercing to me. However dynamics is steady)))

[CaptainHook]

I have a complaint about snare top being clipped somethere at the process... Just look closely at the wave. So top end seems a bit piercing to me. However dynamics is steady)))

We can look forward to hear, and be told how you dealt
with that problem then. :)

I'm gonna be more interested in hearing how experienced
mixers and others deal with less than ideal tracks, than
a stella recording mixed great. :Thumbsup:

Of course, i'd like to see the extremes of both during
the course of MiLaR events. That will be the most
educational for me.

[Charles Dye]

Every single song I mix has a less than ideal recorded element or two.

THAT is the gig.

As CH said above, it's how we deal with it that really defines a mixer's skill.



Before it happens, let me say, these threads will not become a bitchfest about the recording quality of a submitted song. You can discuss the recording as much as you'd like. But please, simply do so with respect towards the artist + engineer who submitted it.

This event succeeds in part based on our ability to continue to get great song submissions like we did this time. Aces High has recorded a very cool song + has been generous enuf to allow all of us the opportunity of to download + mix it. If you want to be able to do this event again + again, and if you want others to be willing to submit their recordings, we can't allow these threads to devolve into a nitpicking contest over the recording.

That requires no skill. You can bust on anything. It's just too easy. I've heard the multitrack masters of Sgt Peppers + those tracks were extremely far from being technically perfect. It would require no effort on my part to start criticizing their recording, but that would be missing the point, now wouldn't it. That album is a musical masterpiece. And that is what this is all about.

Mixing is ALWAYS about compromise. About creating an illusion. And part of that illusion is the perfect sonic rendering of a song. They are never perfect when you pull them apart. But when you put them together right, they give the illusion of aural perfection.

Hope this helps.

[Brendo]

Does anyone agree or disagree that Room 1 and OH's are panned opposite to each other?

[Chris Lambrechts]

Every single song I mix has a less than ideal recorded element or two.

THAT is the gig.

As CH said above, it's how we deal with it that really defines a mixer's skill.



Before it happens, let me say, these threads will not become a bitchfest about the recording quality of a submitted song. You can discuss the recording as much as you'd like. But please, simply do so with respect towards the artist + engineer who submitted it.

This event succeeds in part based on our ability to continue to get great song submissions like we did this time. Aces High has recorded a very cool song + has been generous enuf to allow all of us the opportunity of to download + mix it. If you want to be able to do this event again + again, and if you want others to be willing to submit their recordings, we can't allow these threads to devolve into a nitpicking contest over the recording.

That requires no skill. You can bust on anything. It's just too easy. I've heard the multitrack masters of Sgt Peppers + those tracks were extremely far from being technically perfect. It would require no effort on my part to start criticizing their recording, but that would be missing the point, now wouldn't it. That album is a musical masterpiece. And that is what this is all about.

Mixing is ALWAYS about compromise. About creating an illusion. And part of that illusion is the perfect sonic rendering of a song. They are never perfect when you pull them apart. But when you put them together right, they give the illusion of aural perfection.

Hope this helps.



Well said Charles.


Chris

[Charles Dye]

Does anyone agree or disagree that Room 1 and OH's are panned opposite to each other?

I haven't listened that closely yet, but if you think they are, just go ahead + swap em. If you can't tell for sure, then it probably won't be a problem in the end.

I run in to this all the time + my solution is to listen to all the drum tracks in place, and simply switch the L-R panning perspective of the track in question, to see which pan perspective sounds best with the rest of the drum kit.

In the end, I don't care if it is "right", as much as if it sounds good. And it's quite possible that the way that sounds best might be backwards panning from the rest of the kit.

Hope this helps.

[magicchord]

Does anyone agree or disagree that Room 1 and OH's are panned opposite to each other?

I have not noticed that but you have given me something to check out. :)

[Brendo]

Sure - it's just messing with my head, I can't tell either way but my gut tells me they're 'wrong'.

[danbee]

Sure - it's just messing with my head, I can't tell either way but my gut tells me they're 'wrong'.

Yeah, I think you might be right. I thought they sounded better swapped.

[danbee]

Part 2 of my diary is up if anybody is interested.

http://www.pixelhum.com

[nobby]

You know...

I have been a bit out of the loop lately what with this and that happening in that Real Life thing. You know, gets right in the way of this online thing sometimes, eh?

Anyway, I'm catching up with MIX IT.. and I finally hear the Simple Little Bird track.

See, something about the title made a bell go off in my head.. then I heard it.

And realised that I've FOH'ed Aces High more times than some people have had hot dinners!

Crazyness! Hehehe!

Just thought I'd share that with ya.

:)

Well, they are an Auckland band... you probably narrowly miss having a head-on collision with these guys on a weekly basis.

Just as well you're busy. You are SO disqualified. If you'd entered this event, I would have no choice but to report you to a moderator.

[nobby]

Creative use of any source material that comes directly from the provided tracks is totally cool. :Thumbsup:


Chris

I changed the words around :Wink:

[nobby]

Before it happens, let me say, these threads will not become a bitchfest about the recording quality of a submitted song. You can discuss the recording as much as you'd like. But please, simply do so with respect towards the artist + engineer who submitted it.


Absolutely. They printed some fx and eq. So what?

I don't know if you read the fine print in your contract, but the next person to bitch will be required to mix an entire album by Complete... and they tracked it themselves. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Complete+RockGods&search=Search)

[Charles Dye]

I don't know if you read the fine print in your contract, but the next person to bitch will be required to mix an entire album by Complete... and they tracked it themselves. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Complete+RockGods&search=Search)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Too funny, dood.

[Charles Dye]

The Reference Mix

I'd just like to point out (shoulda told ya sooner... sorry) that the reference mix has been mastered.

Please DO NOT try to make your mix as loud as the reference. If you want to compare it to your mix, I suggest turning the ref mix down 6 dB or so that it matches the level of your mix.

[magicchord]

...the next person to bitch will be required to mix an entire album by Complete... and they tracked it themselves. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Complete+RockGods&search=Search)

EEEYIKE!

Anyway, do you know just how many bands called "Aces High" there are on MySpace? I even found another AH from New Zealand! I had to come back to this forum to find the right link (stupid MySpace search engine).

Maybe this AH oughta think about a new name?

I dunno...

[CaptainHook]

Well, they are an Auckland band...

I think they're a Wellington band?
Which IS Pimp-X's town..

Auckland is closer to me only being an hour away..
And SimonT lives there. :)

[nobby]

I think they're a Wellington band?
Which IS Pimp-X's town..

Auckland is closer to me only being an hour away..
And SimonT lives there. :)

Hmm okay. They were recording in Auckland. That may be where these tracks were recorded.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with the area. It's a bit of a hike from here.

[SimonT]

Hmm okay. They were recording in Auckland. That may be where these tracks were recorded.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with the area. It's a bit of a hike from here.

Yes they did record this song up in a studio out in West Auckland.

[h1studio]

Wow, looks like this is the first time i'm just gone to mix (raw mix)... i have to admit i'm new @ this :Uh oh: .

[Ashley Smith]

All is going well so far, really enjoying it...damn these waves v-series and ssl plugs rock the house :)

[waterboy]

...damn these waves v-series and ssl plugs rock the house :)

No ... damn you for having them!!! :lol:


*Evil Plankton voice*
One day I shall rule the world!

[Charles Dye]

Wow, looks like this is the first time i'm just gone to mix (raw mix)...

That's what I love about this event. It puts the focus on the mixing phase, so those of you who mix your own music can now concentrate on improving your mixing abilities.

When you write your own music, record your own performances, + mix it yourself, it's hard to separate out what mixing is from everything else. And if you can't do that, it's going to be hard to make improvements to your mixing skillz.

I hear people say things like, I should not be using so much eq on this track... I should have recorded it better. Or I should not use this much compression... I should have played it better.

There comes a time when you must stop being the recording engineer + performer. And that time is during the mix. During the recording phase it's your job to get all the best sounds + performances you can. But now in the mixing phase, your job is to accept what you have on disk + make it sound it's absolute best, so the song will sonically connect with the listener.

And about that too much eq thing, thinking that you're using too much eq is irrelevant when mixing. You should ALWAYS use as much eq as it takes to get the sound you want.

This is the process: imagine the sound you want to hear in your head, + move towards it aggressively – without hesitation, compromise or doubt – until you realize it.

And only then should you decide if it sounds good or not. If it doesn't sound good, then maybe you do have too much eq.

But absolutely do NOT 2nd guess yourself into boring, plain jane, uninspired, safe sounds. Bring the tracks alive with your tools + don't stop till you hear from the speakers what you hear in your head.

Hope this helps you get into the headspace you need to be in to mix.

[Charles Dye]

Glad to hear all the updates... please keep em coming. This will all be very educational.

[LIMiT]

All is going well so far, really enjoying it...damn these waves v-series and ssl plugs rock the house :)


Pfft -

only digi stock plugs for me,...thats the only way to go!! :lol:

I'm making myself more familiar with Muse until Monday...havn't even opened the song yet.

Less like a polished Linkin Park,...and more raw like Zeppelin...who are they ??

(j/k)


-LIMiT

[velvet]

3. NOT allowed are the following :

- Time and / or Pitching tools.



What about plugins/hardware for creating harmonies?

Waves Dubler, Antares Harmony Engine, TC Helicon VoicePrism+ or such...

[magicchord]

The drums don't always line up perfectly with the grid.

I'm afraid somebody will notice.

:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :Wink:

[Ashley Smith]

What about plugins/hardware for creating harmonies?

Waves Dubler, Antares Harmony Engine, TC Helicon VoicePrism+ or such...

Those come under the pitching tools tag IMO. We need to all stick to the stock tracks and just mix :Thumbsup:

P.s. Just got out the Muse discography from my collection to listen to too... Crank up that distorted Bass lol.

[Charles Dye]

Yeah, love Muse. Very cool music.

[elborgan]

And about that too much eq thing, thinking that you're using too much eq is irrelevant when mixing. You should ALWAYS use as much eq as it takes to get the sound you want.

This is the process: imagine the sound you want to hear in your head, + move towards it aggressively – without hesitation, compromise or doubt – until you realize it.

And only then should you decide if it sounds good or not. If it doesn't sound good, then maybe you do have too much eq.

But absolutely do NOT 2nd guess yourself into boring, plain jane, uninspired, safe sounds. Bring the tracks alive with your tools + don't stop till you hear from the speakers what you hear in your head.

Hope this helps you get into the headspace you need to be in to mix.

:Thumbsup: :Thumbsup:


This is great advice for any new mixers out there.

When I started out mixing I had read lots online and in books about not EQing (or compressing or anything else for that matter) too much and it always stuck in my mind.

It really held me back.

There's no such thing as too much eq if thats what it takes!

Unfortunately I don't have time to take part in this event but i'll definately be up for the next one. I'm looking forward to the discussions an all....

For me it's like the simpsons episode 'Do what you feel day' everyday I walk into the studio. :D

[Charles Dye]

Thanx, e!

[IntelDoc]

A little update from me.

I used the original tracks, but I went in and found the best hits throughout it and put them in spots that needed fixing. My thought to this as it is "editing" the tracks it is not adding foreign "samples" if you will. Merely making the kick and snare pop more thru the mix with what the band gave me. That being said I hope this is not in violation as to my ears it helped make the song build more for one and gave it consistency. Nothing was added as far as samples, but meticulous work to get the song driving more was what I am after with this mix. The snare that someone was complaining about being clipped to my ears was limited to the point of fuzziness which made for some very cool sounds on parts of the tune. The kick had a few stellar hits too that worked well and allowed me to add a few kicks in parts that needed it for transition purposes (aka - the cut towards the middle that was cross faded poorly) So I ended up shooting it all thru my analog setup (API DSM and a bunch of outboard) and got a pretty decent tune I think. Retained the dynamics of the tune and aded flare right.... ya...

More to come,

Doc

[CaptainHook]

Yes they did record this song up in a studio out in West Auckland.

What studio?

[waterboy]

Or in short:
"Dare to suck!!!"
I quote Mr Dye on that (BTW)

[southboundloco]

What studio?

i believe the studio is called "STUDIO 10" its in auckland...in the original mix, samples were used to make the the snare hits pop out more in some parts of the song but its was from the same session. a clean snare hit was chosen and used to augment/complement/enhance the original ones, just like what Intel Doc is doing. for me it was a 1st instinct kinda thing.plus it helped when there's quite a bit of hi hat bleed on the top snare track on the loud parts/choruses which comes thru the gate which for me limited the amount of high freqs i can boost on the original snare track ...but after i've finished the mix i've always wondered what if i mixed it differently without the samples?was i playing on the safe side too much?... but for some reason i've never gone back and remixed any of the songs i've mixed including this one maybe bcoz no one asked me to do one(or maybe am just lazy haha:D :D ).

so am just glad MilaR-E is here! now i get to do a remix plus this time around i have to stick to rules(no samples), which makes it more challenging and fun plus i find it a really great learning experience, u have to dig in your fundamental skills bag which is always good.:Thumbsup:


SLB

[CaptainHook]

i believe the studio is called "STUDIO 10" its in auckland...

Yeah, Simon just told me where and by who..
I know both those people involved.

This country is too small, let alone the industry. :Wink:

P.s I did my mix yesterday afternoon. I've had much worse
bleed to deal with, and it suited the style anyway. Not that
my snare is THAT bright, or that i stuck to the style much. :D

I tried a crazy arrangement before mixing, didn't like it and
went straight. Wish i could spend more time though as it
did have potential and i can hear more options which i didn't
have time to try. Ah well, next time maybe. :)

[southboundloco]

hey charles how bout a skypeCAST for milar-E#1 where people can discuss stuff in realtime like a conference,maybe during the discussion phase?...hehe just been on one of their skype cast it was fun...the discussion was all about girls hehe. :D :lol: :D

[Charles Dye]

Great idea. How about before the discussion?

[C_F_H_13]

Finally got around to working on the track a bit today. Overall, love all the sounds.I did things a little backwards then I normally do, and started with automation first. Managed to do was some dynamic automation on everything, vocal rides (more over all not detailed), rode the drum tracks, messed with trash on the bass, and ran a set of the room mics through my TD4. I cranked the attack and sustain all the way and got some interesting sounds :grin:.

It was amazing to me how much the pace and energy of the song changed with just riding the drum tracks, muting/unmuting the rooms, and getting a good blend on the "loop kit"

[Skwaidu]

Nice, it seems that I will have time to do a mix next week... :Thumbsup:

[Ashley Smith]

A little update from me.

I used the original tracks, but I went in and found the best hits throughout it and put them in spots that needed fixing. My thought to this as it is "editing" the tracks it is not adding foreign "samples" if you will. Merely making the kick and snare pop more thru the mix with what the band gave me. That being said I hope this is not in violation as to my ears it helped make the song build more for one and gave it consistency. Nothing was added as far as samples, but meticulous work to get the song driving more was what I am after with this mix. The snare that someone was complaining about being clipped to my ears was limited to the point of fuzziness which made for some very cool sounds on parts of the tune. The kick had a few stellar hits too that worked well and allowed me to add a few kicks in parts that needed it for transition purposes (aka - the cut towards the middle that was cross faded poorly) So I ended up shooting it all thru my analog setup (API DSM and a bunch of outboard) and got a pretty decent tune I think. Retained the dynamics of the tune and aded flare right.... ya...

More to come,

Doc


I think this would be considered sample replacement too, even though as you say the samples are not from another outside source you're still sampling and replacing original material. I have to defer to the mod on this one though.

Is this ok?

:Confused:

[Charles Dye]

I'd say it is okay to sample replace the snare with itself. It's still using the recorded drums to get your final sounds.

The thing about sampling that isn't very helpful to learning how to get a great kick + snare sound is that normally the sample you start with is all tweaked + processed. Basically a finished sound. So, there's not much opportunity to improve your skillz that way.

By using the originally recorded snare ID still had to do all the work to get his finished snare sound. So, when we hear his mix the snare sound will be his. Not canned.

What do you think, Chris?

[gbacklin]

Well, due to unforseen circumstances, I was able to spend time on this yesterday. I took a day off from day job, because our sump pump went south and the basement flooded. (worst rain I have seen in years) The 5 hours in the morning was dedicated to sloshing through the water and tossing tons of stuff, luckily Friday was garbage pickup day :)

I was able then, to spend some time with it.....Had fun !


Now onto to cleaning basement.....ahhh you have to love Mother Nature.


Take Care,
Gene

[IntelDoc]

I'd say it is okay to sample replace the snare with itself. It's still using the recorded drums to get your final sounds.

The thing about sampling that isn't very helpful to learning how to get a great kick + snare sound is that normally the sample you start with is all tweaked + processed. Basically a finished sound. So, there's not much opportunity to improve your skillz that way.

By using the originally recorded snare ID still had to do all the work to get his finished snare sound. So, when we hear his mix the snare sound will be his. Not canned.

What do you think, Chris?

I like what you are thinking is what I think... I like your style Mr. Dye! ;-) I agree that with "sample replacement" all together, or "enhancement" you are using something that is already rocking and ready to roll. By using the original tracks I still had to EQ and do my own processing to get the effect I was after, and select parts to put in, all with the original tracks given to me. (a.k.a. - a open hi hat opposite to a closed one, etc) to build a character to the mix that made it slightly different than the others. I used the existing tracks and not "samples on a new track" basically taking 2 hit together in the song and copying them to the beginning of the track for ref, making sure that they are in phase and using that in parts. So I have a click, a hit and a POW! snare for the build all from the song. Still 2 snare tracks altogether, so I still had to tweek a snare, get it to pop like I wanted, and do that throughout the mix. Same with the kick. It was good, but the bleed killed me on all tracks. Could have mixed the drums with the Floor tom really (not that bad, but close. :icon_eek: )
So cutting alot of the bleed out to me really opened the mix up and allowed it to focus better. Defintely with the kick and snare parts. Getting rid of all lthe bleed in the toms, seeing that they were hit all of 1 section of the song made sense too. There was plenty of overhead and room mics to go around, so why not. The hi hat behaved better too not having a billion tracks to enhance itself with. Lil bastard hi hat. ahaha

So yep, I agree with you that using what we have to our advantage to make the tune better is a good thing.

Thanks,
Doc

[CaptainHook]

So yep, I agree with you that using what we have to our advantage to make the tune better is a good thing.


I'm starting to really think i missed something cause i
didn't feel the need to grab any hits to use elsewhere.. :Confused:
It did cross my mind, but i didn't think about it again
which told me it wasn't much to worry about.

I no doubt just missed the mark.

I bet if i had the chance to do some tweaking on my mix,
i'd prob do what you did Doc, just to feel more secure. :lol:

[Charles Dye]

I would say, you didn't miss anything.

As I explained before, I don't like to use samples @ all. They just take away from the original performance IMO.

[magicchord]

...Getting rid of all lthe bleed in the toms, seeing that they were hit all of 1 section of the song ...

Yes, this bears repeating: the drummer does ONE run down the toms, right before the final chorus. He doesn't touch 'em at all otherwise. Hint, hint...:lol:

[Chris Lambrechts]

I'd say it is okay to sample replace the snare with itself. It's still using the recorded drums to get your final sounds.

The thing about sampling that isn't very helpful to learning how to get a great kick + snare sound is that normally the sample you start with is all tweaked + processed. Basically a finished sound. So, there's not much opportunity to improve your skillz that way.

By using the originally recorded snare ID still had to do all the work to get his finished snare sound. So, when we hear his mix the snare sound will be his. Not canned.

What do you think, Chris?


makes sense ... using a / or a few original snare hits to replace ... fine by me.


Chris

[Ashley Smith]

makes sense ... using a / or a few original snare hits to replace ... fine by me.


Chris

Cheers for clearing that up. I just need to use another open hi hat hit I think before the 2nd verse (it's a bit harsh).

:grin:

[IntelDoc]

Cheers for clearing that up. I just need to use another open hi hat hit I think before the 2nd verse (it's a bit harsh).

:grin:


Highlight it, lower the gain and the eq it with audio suite. try to reverse it goin gin too. :)

[esteso]

Yes, this bears repeating: the drummer does ONE run down the toms, right before the final chorus. He doesn't touch 'em at all otherwise. Hint, hint...:lol:

Yep, that was the 2nd thing I did.

For some reason I started to work on the vocals first. (very unusual for me) and then tried to fit the guitars and bass around it. Haven't got to the drums yet. Totally reversed from my usual MO but it just seemed right for this. Can't explain it.

My big problem will be keeping it powerful without drowning out the vocals. I may throw out every 2nd guitar track to this end. Probably going against the grain here since we're always making things bigger and more powerful these days 'cause it sells. I know this is a Mix it Like a Record event and "Aces High" said they're going for intensity but I'm going to try and find something else in these tracks. I feel that at some point with this many distorted guitar tracks you can easily slip into a wall of noise. (I thought Page went a little over the top in latter day Zep for instance) Personally I don't enjoy that so I'm staying with my own feelings about it. See if I can make it rock and maintain clarity.

[CaptainHook]

I would say, you didn't miss anything.


Then again, you may listen to what i did and choose
to retract that comment. :grin:
I appreciate the reassurance though. :)

Yes, this bears repeating: the drummer does ONE run down the toms, right before the final chorus. He doesn't touch 'em at all otherwise. Hint, hint...:lol:

I seem to remember a floor tom build aswell..?
It's VERY likely i'm talking out my ass though. :Confused:

[Brendo]

ive only had one quick listen thru but i also remember a build, but im not sure if it was just snare or if it included the floor.

[magicchord]

I thought it was the kick :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, BTW, I think the Room1 L and R are reversed, heehee.

[Brendo]

yup - i think a few people have noticed that one now.

[esteso]

ive only had one quick listen thru but i also remember a build, but im not sure if it was just snare or if it included the floor.

I listened to that one a few times and can't quite tell either, so I figure it doesn't matter too much.

[Ashley Smith]

I took a listen to all individual parts of the drums and heard that the OH's were flipped too as far as I could tell. The snare sounds off to the left to me. I wonder how the kit was set up... perhaps for a left handed drummer?

I decided to start again on my mix as I was trying to do automation throughout on some parts instead of at the end/using audiosuite to adjust the levels. And I'm so happy I did as it's all sounding 100x better.

:)

[Moonrider]

I'm finally past the "Oh Shit! What do I do with 35 frickin' tracks!" stage.

The most I've mixed in my own stuff is twelve tracks, and I've never, ever had a real drum set to work with.

I'm gonna do something with this mix, even if it's WRONG!:Uh oh:

It's definitely a learning experience here.

Oh - I'm using Ardour as my DAW. (Ubuntu Studio Linux). Is that going be a problem in regards to the project file?

[CaptainHook]

Oh - I'm using Ardour as my DAW. (Ubuntu Studio Linux). Is that going be a problem in regards to the project file?

Isn't Ardour available for free on OSX also?

It's my understanding that platform and operating system
don't matter so you should be fine. :)

From the rules:

"2. You can MiX the song using any tools you like (software or hardware)."

Why 'mix' deserves a capital 'm' and 'x' is another issue entirely..

[Brendo]

IMHO ardour:mac is fucking woeful, it makes me want to slit my (and everyone else's) wrists.

[prschmitt]

I was hoping to run ardour for this project on my slackware box, but it's just too unstable at present to handle it. For me, at least.
It looks to be a pretty neat program once it reaches some measure of maturity (and gets a *DECENT MANUAL!*)
I've been running Reaper in the Wine windows emulator with wineasio, and I gotta tell ya, it's WAY more stable, useable and faster than ardour for me (I compile everything myself.. maybe that's my problem, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna gonna give up slackware for some *ooh-SHINY* distribution). The only downside is that some vst's don't work, but even that doesn't crash the program.
I'd probably run it in XP, and may do so anyway, but I LOVE my gigantic scrolling virtual X11 desktops too much to give them up.
That feature alone makes linux worth it sometimes.
:D

[Charles Dye]

IMHO ardour:mac is fucking woeful, it makes me want to slit my (and everyone else's) wrists.

Now, there's the tuff luv I was missing when you buncha nancies had ur spines drop outcher asses in the mixerchick thread. :icon_eek: :Coolio: :icon_eek:





Welcome back, Brendo!

[CaptainHook]

IMHO ardour:mac is fucking woeful, it makes me want to slit my (and everyone else's) wrists.

Yep. Although apparently they're close to having it run native
so no need for X11 anymore. :Thumbsup:

http://ardour.org/node/1190

[Evil Jack]

Yes, this bears repeating: the drummer does ONE run down the toms, right before the final chorus. He doesn't touch 'em at all otherwise. Hint, hint...:lol:

Hey, you might want to have another listen to that Floor Tom track. Hint, hint.:)



Only just started mixing today - need to get my arse (ass) in gear...

[magicchord]

You have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit.

smiley---> :lol:

Hey, my mix is done, so "whatever".

[Moonrider]

Isn't Ardour available for free on OSX also?



It's being ported, but it's not too stable yet from what I hear.

[Moonrider]

I was hoping to run ardour for this project on my slackware box, but it's just too unstable at present to handle it.

- - -><8

I've been running Reaper in the Wine windows emulator with wineasio, and I gotta tell ya, it's WAY more stable, useable and faster than ardour for me (I compile everything myself.. maybe that's my problem, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna gonna give up slackware for some *ooh-SHINY* distribution).

Hardcore geek :lol:

Seriously though, slice off a partition and check out Ubuntu Studio. They've put a lot of work into optimizing for audio work, and the eye candy is more subdued than most distros.

[prschmitt]

Hardcore geek :lol:

Seriously though, slice off a partition and check out Ubuntu Studio. They've put a lot of work into optimizing for audio work, and the eye candy is more subdued than most distros.

I may just give that a shot.
I'm gonna guess, though, that they don't supply any vst support for any of their applications due to steinberg's licensing provisos.
I hate to admit it, but after reading the 'best free plugins' thread, and giving some of those puppies a whirl, I'm now a committed vst addict (gotta love those fishphones :)), and built ardour with vst support for precisely that reason. Perhaps that's the source of some of my instability.
I'm also running 2.0.5, which is supposedly a tad more squirrelly than the 0.99 series.
>sigh<

[danbee]

I love the idea of Ardour, but I'm pretty much a dedicated Reaper addict now. Ardour looks quite daunting too.

It looks like it's been modeled quite closely on PT, but having never used PT I can't say for sure. Probably why I didn't get on with it!

PS. Part 3 of my diary is up... http://www.pixelhum.com

[magicchord]

...5. You will provide us with a stereo mix (m4a, m4p, or AAC @ 160 Kbps) and a zipped version of your project/session file (if mixed with DAW), or jpgs of hardware settings (if mixed on console + OBG)...

Just curious: why do you want these particular file formats?

I ask only because any attempt to install "Quick"Time on my Windows machine causes it to regurgitate green bile (actually, I think it just doesn't like my Echo sound card's XP driver).

However, my copy of Sound Forge v. 9 will make AAC files so I'm good to go. I just have to go to another computer to check 'em :D

(yes, I'm whining)

I bring it up because others may not be able to do MPEG4 or AAC so I hope something like a high-rate MP3 is okay, eh?

[Charles Dye]

Just curious: why do you want these particular file formats?

Basically, I'm tryin to bring you audio doodz into the new millennia. MP3 is an old format that doesn't sound so good, + is not very efficient.

I'm trying to get you all to use a better sounding format. And @ the same let all of us hear a better version of your mix.

The file's we mentioned in the rules are all pretty much the same thing: MP4. Which is relatively new, more efficient + better sounding codec.

Can any other PC users out there suggest another way MC can create the files?

Do you have iTunes, magic? It has built in aac/m4a encoding software that you could use. (But don't know if that means you need to install QT or not.

Hope this helps.

[magicchord]

Okay, to clarify, I can make AAC files, and I'm resourceful enough that I'm good to go.

I guess the whole issue just got my PC versus MAC hackles up.

Pardon me.

Move along, nothing to see here.

[CaptainHook]

Hey, my mix is done, so "whatever".

For a while there, i was wishing i could have more time
to "refine" my mix etc.
But now i'm of the mindset, that this is a learning experience.
And the way i went about mixing this song, is the same way
i usually go about mixing a song that someone else has tracked.
Do my thing within a day, send it off. No spending a week
tweaking each little thing to get it perfect. That's not
real life for the way i work. The only thing missing from
the MiLaRE format that happens in real life, is after sending
off the mix i get a list of adjustments to be made.
Once they're satisfied, done deal.

My job is to give the client a usable mix within budget which
usually means within a timeframe that is generally a day at most.
I want to learn how to get to the end game FASTER, not spend a week
fine-tuning a mix. So now i'm glad i spent just one afternoon
on the mix. If it isn't up to par, i need to sort my shit out so i can
get up to standard in a REAL world timeframe. (as it applies to me..)

That's why I'M doing this anyway. :)

To cut to the chase, i'm with you.
My mix is done. :grin:

[IntelDoc]

;-) Mine was done last week. I dig it and listened again tonight, but said, nope it is done.

Doc

[st robert]

hello...

just rearranged my room, got my main computer back and started mucking with the tune a couple days ago. after 48 audio tracks, countless inserts and bits of automation later, the thing sounds pretty cool. (btw, having 2megs of cache per core seems to be a good thing. 256 samples of latency, 65 channels, tons of fx, and the fucker never even burped.)

i figure i've got 6-8 hours into it at least.
i'll make last minute changes tomorrow since this is a dry run mix for my new room setup...

can't wait to hear some of the other interpretations of the same source material. should be groovy.


until the unveiling...



rob

[danbee]

For any Windows users that still need an AAC encoder, Nero give away their MP4 audio encoder for free.

http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html

IIRC the quality is pretty much on par with the iTunes encoder.

[Charles Dye]

For any Windows users that still need an AAC encoder, Nero give away their MP4 audio encoder for free.

http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html

IIRC the quality is pretty much on par with the iTunes encoder.
Very cool, db. Looks like the perfect PC solution.

Thnx for posting that!

[Evil Jack]

Charles, would it be breaking the rules to blend a triggered/gated sine wave in with the kick drum?

The kick is not great - and this is how I want to deal with it. :Roll eyes:

[waterboy]

I thought my mix was done last week .... but then I listened to it in the car. It sounded like cow poopie-doopie!
Not only am I re-doing it ... I am also doing it in (2) different DAW's so I can submit the one that sucks the least squirrel balls!

[Charles Dye]

Charles, would it be breaking the rules to blend a triggered/gated sine wave in with the kick drum?

Sure. I think we said yes to this earlier, but yeah this is fine.

[prschmitt]

For any Windows users that still need an AAC encoder, Nero give away their MP4 audio encoder for free.

http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html

IIRC the quality is pretty much on par with the iTunes encoder.


Just nabbed it, and *d00d*!
There's a linux version included in the archive, too!
That'll be great for our Ardour-ous participants who don't have an mp4 encoder on hand and don't want to compile/hustle one up on their own!
K3w1!

[magicchord]

Yup, I tried it and it works!

Good find!

[Stick]

Ding-dangitty! I missed it again! First Cape now this... crippty-crap.

[Charles Dye]

This isn't the only time we will do this. We plan on doing it multiple times. So, just wait a month or so.

Also, I can tell already there will be a lot to learn in the discussions of this round even if you didn't do a mix.

So, see ya in a week!

[Stick]

This isn't the only time we will do this. We plan on doing it multiple times. So, just wait a month or so.

Also, I can tell already there will be a lot to learn in the discussions of this round even if you didn't do a mix.

So, see ya in a week!

Oh, I'm not here to learn anything... I'm just here to show off my mad mix skillz. :grin:



Just kidding. :lol:

[Charles Dye]

:D :lol: :lol: :lol:

[magicchord]

For any Windows users that still need an AAC encoder, Nero give away their MP4 audio encoder for free.

http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Nero_Digital_Audio.html

IIRC the quality is pretty much on par with the iTunes encoder.

Someone on the REAPER forum pointed out this front-end for stuff like this called batchenc
http://members.home.nl/w.speek/batchenc.htm
It makes these command-line thingys a lot easier to use.

[danbee]

Just nabbed it, and *d00d*!
There's a linux version included in the archive, too!
K3w1!

Fucking bonus! :)

Someone on the REAPER forum pointed out this front-end for stuff like this called batchenc
http://members.home.nl/w.speek/batchenc.htm
It makes these command-line thingys a lot easier to use.

That looks pretty cool, I'll have to check it out.

[MicTayler]

Well I thought I was done then I got some free time with a 9000k so I'm think'n to myself why not spit the mix out through the ssl mix buss and see what's what. Should be interesting considering I've done the mix completely with digirack plugz on my mbox mini... which buss will sound better?:Twisted:

flame on!... just kidding.:lol:

[magicchord]

Yeah, my good friend in London just called and said I can get in to use the REDD TG12345 at Abbey Road if I want.

I hafta bring my own headphones, though.

[waterboy]

That's gonna cost you a fortune with GreyHound Bus!

I think I'll stick with my Radio Shack equipment .... how can something named Realistic be anything but!

[Charles Dye]

.... how can something named Realistic be anything but!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

doodboy, that is too friggin funny!!!!!!!!!

[CaptainHook]

Well I thought I was done then I got some free time with a 9000k so I'm think'n to myself why not spit the mix out through the ssl mix buss and see what's what.

Wow. Didn't see that one coming at all..

Oh wait..

Yeah, you say it will be on your mbox but really you
will have grabbed some spare hours at SingSing on the neve
or ssl.

Hehe.

[MicTayler]

Don't pretend you wouldn't do the same f*@King thing Cap'n:D

[Audio~Geek]

Looks like I'm going to have to drop out of this thing, I just don't have the time to work on it this week. I'll eventually get a mix done, just not by Monday. The IMP last week took me 10 hours and still wasn't finished, so I know I can't get this one done in time.

[chrisj]

I'm going to be doing it in an extremely compressed timeframe, which is fine with me. Always seems to be that way. If I suck as a result of that, that's OK too. I already have MILAR so I'm not out for the prizes :)

[Watershed]

The IMP last week took me 10 hours and still wasn't finished, so I know I can't get this one done in time.
LOL, I think I know where my 2 hour effort will sit :lol:

[CaptainHook]

Don't pretend you wouldn't do the same f*@King thing Cap'n:D

Neither of us are that stupid. :Wink:

[Mixerman]

Yeah, you say it will be on your mbox but really you
will have grabbed some spare hours at SingSing on the neve
or ssl.

Say "hi" to Kai for me.

Enjoy,

Mixerman

[MicTayler]

Say "hi" to Kai for me.

Will do..:)

oh and Jimmy - I assisted a session of his a couple of weeks back ridiculously cool guy.:Thumbsup:

[ryst]

When is the deadline to get the mixes done again?

[magicchord]

That's gonna cost you a fortune with GreyHound Bus!...

Yeah, and the Polar bus route doesn't start 'til December now.
Damned Global Warming!

[MikeC]

Bon soir! :)

Am 'aving le nightmare and haven't got the studio back into a working state to do anything with this track. Building work still going on so am still stuck playing with a laptop (albeit new and shiney MPB :) ) and the PT rig is in boxes with outboard being "looked after" by friends. Monsieur Xavier from DUY 'as been le gent superb and tried to help with some of the plugin ailments but alas, non.

Anyway, apologies for the affected French accent but tis le Friday night and I am sitting avec a very good bottle of plonk (actually, only half left :) ) Good luck to all having more fun wih this than moi.

M

[Brendo]

great, everyone's pulling out. i should come 50th by default! awesome!

[waterboy]

Fugg that! I'll be last in line, thank you all very much!
My effort with this mix is really crappy .... no kiddin'

[Brendo]

nah-uh. mine's crappier!

[MicTayler]

Done and dusted, and reasonably happy.:Coolio:

[stevep]

Man,... I am so bummed i missed the sign up.... I have been slammed with sessions so kinda distracted,,

Hopefully i will get in on the next one,

Have Fun ! :D


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[Brendo]

PM one of the people who dropped out - get them to submit your mix ;)

[stevep]

PM one of the people who dropped out - get them to submit your mix ;)


Cool, its worth a try


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[Daunt]

Couldn't figure out how to use Batchenc with Nero, so I searched for something else and found this:

Simple NeroAACEnc GUI (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Editors-Recorders/Simple-NeroAACEnc-GUI.shtml)

So much easier to use.

[southboundloco]

dbPOwerAMP is a good choice too, and its freeeee!:D

[chrisj]

BLOODY hell, I haven't even started yet... kill me... just too fucking stressed out...

...four hours later, OK, I'm going to have SOMETHING anyway. Phew.