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pounce
December 2nd, 2006, 03:51 PM
The live sound experience is going to have a number of threads/stickies/primers about things relating to live shows, band, and other live show issues. I'm taking the tack that instead of just writing things as an article with only my experience, i'd rather get some things started as a thread so that all of our input can be put into these subjects. I'll make them a sticky, or otherwise feature all of the info in one place.

Merchandise - your band might make more money on this than you do on gigging. T-shirts, videos, cd's, stickers, whatever you can sell at shows or in stores.

as a slightly pedantic side note, merchandise is any of the above items that are being sold. swag is promo items given away for free. it was explained to me that swag was an acronym for stolen without a gun, an old pirate term. now it's used for any materials given away for the sake of band promotion. usually tshirts, stickers, cd's, or posters. these may be the same items that are sold as merchandise otherwise, but the terms merchandise and swag are not interchangeable as one has to do with free and the other is about making some money.

bands selling merchandise in live shows often have their own person, perhaps a touring manager, to watch the merch table. venues don't provide staff for selling band gack, so it's up to the band to have that covered. relatedly, having something to hang posters on, a table to put out, and some means of handling cash (or credit) is the bands responsibility - i wouldn't count on the venue having any of this. bringing your own folding tables with merch samples and easily readable labels for pricing is recommended. if you have a video, having an intergrated tv/video player running the video is recommended. some larger venues get a cut from merch sales (not typically bars or clubs, but large scale touring). so keeping good accounting is recommended.

companies like cdbaby.com not only do a great job helping folks sell their cd's ( i highly recommend all bands get connected with them), they also do something great for bands at venues playing live shows. they let bands get credit card machines to use at the venue so that you can accept credit card payments for merchandise. i say make it as easy as possible for folks to buy stuff from you. in this day and age, you can expect credit cards as the payment norm more and more.

so with these few ideas to get us started, perhaps folks can add to the discussion. where do you get merch like band tshirts? how many do you sell or give away? do you have a video? how do you display your wares at the shows? any other merchandise or swag comments are welcome. let's get into this topic.

dumbass
December 2nd, 2006, 04:23 PM
GREAT topic!

(I pulled this from my post in a similar topic in Bad Bob's forum)

There's Beer Huggies, Totes, Jackets, etc... Try searching for "Promotional Items"... LOTS of stuff and service providers to choose from!

One thing I did for a band was print some "official" backstage tour passes for a band. I made sure I put the words "Not Valid At Any Venue" on them. The intent was to get the band to autograph the pass when it was purchased.

I made em' about half the normal size. I laminated them and put a cheap lanyard on em. The band sold them like hotcakes in a few different places.

The concept was a music industry "trading card". Maybe it'll catch on... Wouldn't it be slick to eventually see these things on eBay? or hear fans at gigs... "Hey, I'll trade you a Blind Fish for 2 Jimmy Buffet's!"

There's a local singer/songwriter that actually takes a promotional item catalog to shows. People (especially women) will spend up to 30 minutes shopping in the catalog for gift items. The whole time, they end up buying an extra CD, another key-tag, t-shirt, etc.

Another thing he did was to work with one of the promo companies to get an online version. They evidently gave him all of the code and "back office" stuff. So all he had to do was set up the eCommerce side and he was off and running.

When they order out of the catalog or online, he puts the buyer on the email/fan list.

Spock
December 2nd, 2006, 06:42 PM
Great topic. We don't do much Merch, mainly I bring the swag.

The swag that everyone wants......

The thong with our logo on it.

I'm not kidding. I'm out of them right now and have to order more. Even a co-owner of one bar, (he has a main job as a drag queen) wants me to get him some for his "show".

We do have a link to our Cafepress store from our webpage, so people can get things when they want.

Tim Halligan
December 4th, 2006, 04:44 PM
I already new that merch was big money for the big artists...but I had no idea just how big until I spoke to my GF's sister. She is involved in merch for a lot of the touring shows that come through town...everything from theatrical shows to big music acts.

Robbie Williams was just here and played 2 shows, with the other capitals to follow. Not a lot of gigs..maybe 10 give or take...
They expect to make $15million in merch alone for this leg of the tour. Mind you, at $30 for a programme and $50-$60 for a t-shirt, it probably won' t be difficult.

The second thing I learned was the basic unit of measurement.

Tons. :icon_eek:

I shit you not.

Not how many hundreds or thousands of t-shirts...

How many tons.

True economies of scale.



My flabber has been ghasted.

:Roll eyes:


Cheers,
Tim

Earwig
November 28th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Being one that mainly jams econo, recently I've been making t-shirts for about $3 each. They sell pretty swell mixed color, ring neck tee shirts at the drug store here for $2 each (5 for $10). I buy packs of computer print-out iron-on pages and just run our band's design off of my computer/printer. It takes a few minutes to cut each one out by hand and iron them on. But this keeps the shirts extra damn cheap. I sell them from $5-$8.

We also have the de-rig buttons and stickers. I've thought about everything else from biker bags to thongs with our band's name, but somewhere in the back of my mind there's always fuckin' Ian from Fugazi telling me it's wrong and I'll be going directly to sell-out/straight-edge hell if I do it...

dnafe
November 28th, 2007, 04:47 PM
but somewhere in the back of my mind there's always fuckin' Ian from Fugazi telling me it's wrong and I'll be going directly to sell-out/straight-edge hell if I do it...

what, you don't like to eat?

:grin:

Unfcknblvbl
December 1st, 2007, 01:42 AM
...but somewhere in the back of my mind there's always fuckin' Ian from Fugazi telling me it's wrong and I'll be going directly to sell-out/straight-edge hell if I do it...

Naw, just don't do interviews with any mag that advertises alcohol or cigarettes. If selling merch were a bad thing, Mackaye would have written off Rollins years ago.

Earwig
December 4th, 2007, 03:32 PM
what, you don't like to eat?

:grin:

For me, it takes a good cup and a half of ketchup/whiskey to get a thong down. I've never actually tried, but I don't think I could eat a whole biker bag though...

radiationroom
January 4th, 2008, 09:10 PM
somewhere in the back of my mind there's always fuckin' Ian from Fugazi telling me it's wrong and I'll be going directly to sell-out/straight-edge hell if I do it...

Ian's opinions don't count. Do what you need to do because you guys need to eat and pay your rent at the end of the day.