Closed threads

[Logan]

Two threads discussing Cape have now been closed, and both after implying negative things about the questions that were asked about Cape. Goes closed the thread started by BB that implied someone was trying to "throw a monkey wrench" into Cape after I replied to set the record straight. The implications of his post were that I had some ulterior motive rather than having fun, which was the purpose of Cape.

Anyone who checks out the closed threads will see that a legitmate concern was raised and changes were made and that I went out of my way not to question the motives of anyone involved. If you're not interested in dealing with facts that's fine, go ahead and close this one as well, but don't attach negative connotations to my motives, 'cause that's just bullshit. Take care Logan

[Goes211]

Don't read censorship where there isn't any.
You guys were not going anywhere but throwing nasty words at each other (and yes that includes you Logan).
It's all still there for your reading pleasure.
Are you interested in signing up for Cape or not ?
Even after we changed the wording ?
I didn't think so.
I'm tired of discussing this.
Take care Goes211.

[Logan]

I am interested in signing up for Cape, the fact that I haven't has to do with my work schedule, I don't know if I have the time to get a demo of tunes together for the deadline, and I don't want to make a committment I can't keep. The next few days will tell if I have time and if I do I'll sign up.

BTW, there's been precious little discussion, but a significant amount of fingerpointing which is what pisses me off, anyway I'm done with the conversation, such as it's been. Take care Logan

[jerryskid]

Dude...if you keep stirring up shit....it's gonna stink the place up....put a lid on it....I bet you run around kicking wasp nests too.....Chill

[st robert]

friendly little feller.


can't wait to be on his team.



takes care of what, exactly?







love,

rob

[nobby]

BTW, there's been precious little discussion

There's been entirely enough discussion. I think the agreement is as benign as it can be, but if you have a problem with it, no one is forcing you to sign up.

[mousdrvr]

I say we extend the olive branch. Way more blood than this has been spilled and recovered, and personally I'm not going to hold any grudges over a very small flame war.

Logan I'd be glad to be on a team with you.



-mous

[dwoz]

Logan...


clearly the only transgression you're guilty of here is Beating a Dead Horse.

you didn't kill the horse, it was already dead before you got to it...but the rest of us are starting to find it tiresome, the sound of a blunt club smacking into lifeless inanimate horseflesh.

We on the Cape Committee engaged in literally months of planning and discussion...months. Discussions that you weren't privvy to. Somehow, you feel like we should rehash all that again, for your benefit? We had grand sweeping socratic(and otherwise) debates about the legalities, about the process, about the organization...and to be frank, we're not particularly interested in accommodating your desire to 'collaborate' on all those aspects of it. Cape 6 "is what it is" and while we're certainly interested in EVERYONE's opinions about how it turns out, Cape 6 is pretty much "debated" and "decided".

For Cape 6, your choices for collaboration at this point are entirely constrained to the role of participant...Either sign up or sit on the bench. We know you have thousands of great ideas about how this project should be done...everyone has lots of great ideas about it, and we discussed ALL of them, including the ones you are promoting.

See, you think this is all new to us, but to me and Goes211, (and the rest of the admins) this is just a rehashing (again!) of discussion #23.

Redundant.

We covered this ground, we already tried this dress on, we've read this chapter twice. To me, having this discussion with you is like spinning a globe, and finding myself unsurprised (but still somehow bemused) when North America comes around into view, over and over.

We shut those threads because we felt that there was an ongoing, persistent misrepresentation of the actual legal implications of our CAPE legal agreement. You kept saying "signing away rights", and we kept responding "It doesn't DO that!"


Nobody, read: NOBODY has taken the position that your posts implied any suspicion of malfeasance on our part. Especially since you repeated the fact that you didn't think we were trying to be underhanded, over and over.

We got that.

Your entire purpose was to try to point out that we were being ACCIDENTALLY, or perhaps even INADVERTENTLY underhanded and exposing everyone to some kind of legal risk. A point that has now been discredited over and over again, pretty much to everyone's satisfaction but yours (and, unfortunately, to the self-immolation collateral damage of another member, who exercised questionable judgement as he grabbed hold of your rope)

So, MY accusation to you was SPECIFICALLY that you have only a vague idea what you're on about when it comes to the legal side, and that you're potentially leading others astray into a swamp of irrelevant concerns.

I know and trust and never felt for a moment that the purity of my sacrosanct intentions was being besmirched under ill-cast aspersions, and I'm quite sure and willing to declare that, in your understanding of things, you are the "white knight" here, and I don't imagine otherwise.

Ultimately, it comes down to a personal decision. Is the agreement viable for YOU? No? Yes? good on ya, whichever way you decide. Listen to your attorney and take his/her advice seriously. From your personal decision, you can extrapolate exactly NOTHING about the suitability of that agreement for someone else. So beating that horse over and over again is, for lack of a better term, useless.

Looking forward to seeing you again, next spin...have a good one!

dwoz

[bbkong]

Logan, I wouldn't flatter myself too much by assuming I was directing my comments toward you. I spoke only of my own experience of watching the Cape from the beginning and invariably, there's a tempest in the teapot every time over some minuscule point of detraction.

I say enough, already, and I echo everyone else's sentiment that if anyone has an issue with the way it's run or set up, then don't bother signing up. The debate is over.

While you may bask in some glory of having one word in the agreement changed in a gesture of appeasement, be assured it doesn't make a rat's ass of difference to anybody else here, one way or another.

Considering that you walked in the door here and didn't even bring any beer, I'd say you've made quite an impression, and I'm really looking forward to hearing what you may have to contribute to the party.

I hope you have a great Cape experience!

Enjoy!

[lebouche]

I've spent the last few years listening to people negotiate over songs that never make money when they could be making music....:Roll eyes:
If I participate in anyway it will be for fun and in the hope that when I look back I'm proud of my input.

[ella]

I've spent the last few years listening to people negotiate over songs that never make money when they could be making music....:Roll eyes:
If I participate in anyway it will be for fun and in the hope that when I look back I'm proud of my input.

You know, I was kinda skimming over the dramatics and thinking about, were I to actually make one, what sort of comment I might add.

You have nailed it completely. Thank you.

:Thumbsup: :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup: :Thumbsup:

[nobby]

Logan...


clearly the only transgression you're guilty of here is Beating a Dead Horse.

you didn't kill the horse, it was already dead before you got to it...but the rest of us are starting to find it tiresome, the sound of a blunt club smacking into lifeless inanimate horseflesh.



At this point the horseflesh has left the dogfood factory in cans.

[Carlo]

If I participate in anyway it will be for fun and in the hope that when I look back I'm proud of my input.

There ya go..and as far as I'm concerned...any print is good print!

[Fulcrum]

I think that when Bitch Slap were faced with similar circumstances, Mixerman made the analogy that they were arguing over Monopoly money.

[CaptainHook]

:Yawn:

[seagate]

What's Cape???


:Roll eyes:

[mousdrvr]

What's Cape???


:Roll eyes:

Dude! It's SOOOOO cool. It's this little thing we do here where folks from all over the world collaborate on a bunch of tunes and then we put'em all together and have a big love fest, old school. It's all about the vibe and the community.


uh ......wait.....don't I know you? :lol: :lol:


-mous