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pounce
December 16th, 2007, 05:36 PM
one area of live sound close to home for me is theatre sound and sound design. it's got some quirks unique to it that aren't relevent to running sound for a band, for instance.

there's usually lots of wireless, lots of instruments, sound effects, lots of scene recall, specific processing effects, and then just plain old mixing the thing. computer control of mixing boards is almost a given. the big kids mostly seem to use cadac boards and software like qlab or sfx in their rig, along with smaart or spectra foo.

i recently downloaded qlab, the basic version is free and the advanced featured versions are cheap

http://figure53.com/qlab/

and sure enough i saw it in use last night at a touring broadway show that i attended. (as an audience member for a change, not a crew member this time).

i used sfx for a number of shows and it got the job done real well.

http://www.stageresearch.com/products/index.aspx

i regularly see spectra foo used live

http://www.mhlabs.com/metric_halo/products/foo/

although smaart is also used

http://www.eaw.com/products/software/EAWSmaart/

this one had looked promising, but i'm not so sure about it's developement anymore. it never seemed to get fully fleshed out...
http://www.macfoh.com/

and of course most line arrays have their own software for setting them up in the room, so there are a number of flavors of those to help set the angle of the dangle.

no doubt fairly typical DAW and editor applications are used to create the sound effects in the first place, but the above stuff has a special place at live events and i see much of the above software at pretty much every touring broadway or other theatre gig, and the analysis part of it at big rock shows. even in smaller shows.

what else are you using, or what do you like? i'll be able to have a review of qlab soon. so far it looks much nicer to use than the sfx program i'd used so often before.

pounce
February 1st, 2008, 09:10 PM
not many theatre types around here, eh?

i've been messing around with qlab a bit. it seems great so far. works nice and fast on my machine. straightforward layout. i was out recently and saw it in use with the current sweeney todd tour, so i know that it's definately getting used by legit theatre types.

i've been looking into things like show control, database, and other productivity type applications still related to this field and i'm finding some cool stuff. i am leaning towards getting bento for myself as well. a nice simple database that's wicked cheap.

ps: a thread in here about snapper 1.0 got me thinking about related audio utility and software other than DAW or editor programs.

ggunn
February 4th, 2008, 08:55 PM
not many theatre types around here, eh?

Well, I am one, though it's strictly small space community theatre. I cut my teeth on reel to reel (and <shudder> casette) cue playback and razor blade editing. Minidisc and Sound Designer changed my world.

pounce
October 22nd, 2008, 06:12 PM
might be driving a system with qlab in the nearish future. thought i'd resurrect this thread to see if anyone had any experience with that for show control.

i've messed about with sfx show control software, which is fine, but i'm avoiding being on windows when possible. qlab seems just fine and it's mac, so that works for me.

i know i've seen at least one touring broadway show using qlab recently, so it's out there. any comments about it from the trenches most welcome.

at the moment i'm using a cadac j series and using it's automation software, which is fine especially since it's tailor made for the console and works great. we are triggering hardware samplers for sound fx which is pretty old school. with the qlab system i'd just trigger audio right on out of the computer to skip a step and eliminate the need for additional hardware.

clicktrack
October 22nd, 2008, 07:25 PM
not many theatre types around here, eh?



Actually thats where I cut my teeth as well...

You're right..the theatre audio is a completely different animal to the recording or band mixing world. You tend to adapt an ability to watch the big picture more, because its all about continuity of sound and maintaining the audience's suspension of disbelief. Sometimes I actually miss it ;).

I'm interested to hear your thoughts of qlab. If I was doing a show now, it would definitely be a consideration for me...looks exactly like the software that we needed way back then. SFX was just coming into its own at the time.

I know a few guys who are trained SMAART guys, and they swear by it. These are also the guys who I would trust with anything, so it stands to reason huh?

Cheers

benw
October 23rd, 2008, 02:37 PM
iv used qlab several times - worked a charm, very reliable and stable, fairly easy to use, made my life a whole load easier. i can recommend it