Am I just deaf?

[Jason Phair]

Vox part 1.

I downloaded all the snippets. They match with what the player says is available. I lined them up with the little tones. The number seems right. After a few go by though, it seems that what I'm hearing in the snippets is NOT what Slipperman is talking about. Anyone else have this issue or are my ears THAT FUCKING SHOT?

[dnafe]

Hey Jason

Trust me it's even more fun when you're trying to do this in real time from the streams with two radios going

Don't ask

[bunnerabb]

WHAT???

[Slipperman]

Dude.

Let's get to the bottom of it.

Doc Smith(who has been in charge of coordinating everything up thru the 'upload', but NOT the 'posting' process here at the womb) is in working at my shop tonight and he's unfortunately gonna be swamped... but I will have him download the mp3s and attempt to line the shit up just as you did(n't) and see what happens ASAP.

I really wanna get this stuff squared away, as NOT having it squared away really reduces any potential downloaders incentive to put up with my long winded shenanigans... And as silly and probably pointless as they are... They DO take an appreciable amount of time and effort to accomplish, and so, being mortal and all... I'd like to see them working properly.

I'm speaking about the narratives where I hafta put up the big desk with a full recall including a shitload of outboard and patchwork.

The "run my mouth only" ones are not a big deal at all.

Anyhoo.

I'm going to see if we can't figure out and solve any and all bugs in the system and get it going more efficiently.

Sorry about the problems buddy.

I appreciate your patience and good natured understanding.

Slippy

[volthause]

i still haven't found where snippet8 goes.

[Jason Phair]

Yeah, if I remember right, it was around 8-9 that it really got wonky.

In the voiceover there's a section where a compressor (it might've been the 1176) is turned on, and Slippy goes "whoa!" or something like that, because of a supposed dramatic gain increase.

I ain't hearin' dat.

[volthause]

that would be "ding" #9, and snippet #10

[myrtlebacker]

I suggested this in PM once, I think posting another "big" track of equal duration with better encoding for the snippets would be better than having a dozen little snippets. So his eminence could just "cut" a second stereo track, while recording his musings on the first track as usual. When both track playbacks are started at the same time the snippets should play in sync.

The problem is of course the filesize.

I dicked around with a few encoders and a demo file, that was 1:00 hours long and that contained the 14 snippets each played once at some random time.

The resultant raw file I encoded with various encoders, I thought were reasonably popular:

MP3 with VBR is not so good, it doesn't compress silence as well as I thought, the resulting file was around 70MB.

Zipping a raw file is not much better, it compreses silence better, yet I got 50MB.

Next stop is FLAC. This would be a nice format, because it doesn't compress losslessly at all, the resultant file was 26MB. That may still waste too much bandwidth though.

The winner was AAC / MP4 (the iPod format...) with VBR, it compresses the file down to 12MB which is basically the sum of the original snippet sizes.

[imagineaudio]

Where are the new clips slippy announced?

[chrisj]

There's no specific way to announce when the Wombooks actually put the file into the player. Slippy, Smileyblue or whoever can say they gave 'em the file but they aren't operating the actual flash player so we have to wonder for a while.

It would be great if there was something, even an informal note on the subforum so the active thread was 'Biggenation up (NTTAWWT)' when the player has the file...

[meLoCo_go]

Umm...
Why not just provide timing for placing snippets? Preferably in samples)))

And the ding could be shorter and it can be mixed in the snippet. So lining up of snippet with the VO track would be easier.

[myrtlebacker]

Umm...
Why not just provide timing for placing snippets? Preferably in samples)))

And the ding could be shorter and it can be mixed in the snippet. So lining up of snippet with the VO track would be easier.

But is this really simpler than recording two streams at the same time, converting them with different encoders and posting them ?

[meLoCo_go]

But is this really simpler than recording two streams at the same time, converting them with different encoders and posting them ?
Ummmm... Nope)))
Except for that the decoder should be implemented in most popular DAWs, so it shouldn't be too exotic.
Oh... some thought - the .zip must probably compress "silence-only" .wav track very good. So probably there can be two-sets
of files - .mp3 and zipped "silence-only" .wavs as a spacers.

And... although FLAC is not that effective as some other codecs for snippets it is IMHO a better solution. You know... tryin' to figure out how slippy's twist at 16k affects guitars from mp3's is akin to being a daltonic in the fine-arts museum.

[Mojo]

I gave a listen to what was playing in the background on the narrative track and this is what I've gotten from that...

Dings 1 - 8/snippets 1 - 8 then ding 9/snippet 10, ding 10/snippet 11, ding 11/snippet 9*, then dings 12 - 14/snippets 12 - 14

*snippet 9 was left hanging out and ding 11 has no background snippet bleed, so I just went on assumption.

[lebouche]

The only ones I found (guitars) are cool you just stick em in logic next to the show and bing bang bosh they are in time...where are the others btw?
Thanks