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Goes211
November 7th, 2006, 11:18 PM
Sting - songs from the labyrinth (http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/special/?ID=sting-dowland)

...I'll be honest...it's a good thing we still have a few connections at the record company (the wife used to work there)...not sure I would have bought it.

He's gone an done an album of songs by a medieval british composer called John Dowland (1563-1626). These are actual 'songs', accompanied by a lute played by virtuoso Edin Karamazov.

The music is actually surprisingly interesting and, if anything else, it's a cool insight into a different period. You can hear a few excerpts at the link above.

What drives me bonkers is that the vocal (which is very much by itself a lot of the time) is compressed to death. It's almost like you'd solo a compressed lead vox on an already compressed pop tune, pumping like mad.

It makes the songs work at very low levels, but if you turn it up it's almost unbearable.
There are a few 'spoken' parts which link the songs together...jeez, they've left the comp on there too.
I can almost count the hairs in El Stingo's nostrils, it's so harsh.
Also, they haven't really bothered doing some 'cleaning up editing'...so you can hear the comp releasing and taking it's time to do so...very strange.

Don't get me wrong : I like hiss and dirt as much as the next luddite. But this sounds like sloppy work, and I'm surprised to hear that on a 'classical' (Deutsche Grammophon) record...and then on a Sting record.

What pisses me off is that it's hindering me from actually enjoying the music.

Anyone else ?

nobby
November 8th, 2006, 12:36 AM
Haven't heard it. I have "Ten Summoner's Tales" which I thought they'd done a good job with.

I can almost count the hairs in El Stingo's nostrils, it's so harsh.
Also, they haven't really bothered doing some 'cleaning up editing'...so you can hear the comp releasing and taking it's time to do so...very strange.

LMFBO! :lol:

I might download that on itunes just to hear Sting's nose hairs and the comp releasing Wink

Who recorded it?

Recording Engineer: Gordon Sumner

Spock
November 8th, 2006, 03:12 AM
.....songs by a medieval british composer called John Dowland (1563-1626). These are actual 'songs', accompanied by a lute played by virtuoso Edin Karamazov.


I'm going to have to check that out. I ran sound a few times for a small local group called "The Dowlands" after John Dowland.

Thanks for the heads up Goes. Thumbsup

malice
November 8th, 2006, 10:38 AM
That is the problem of working with "recording setups".

Some are just patching comps and pres without listening to the music surrounding it.

malice

Fulcrum
November 8th, 2006, 03:00 PM
"But... but I'm more important than my material..."

Perhaps a little too much vanity in this vanity project?

prmntwaves
November 9th, 2006, 07:41 PM
I heard the CD a couple weeks ago (before I read this post, obviously) and about .02 seconds into it the first thing I said was "Geez, that's a lot of compression on the Vox". Glad it's not just me.

Having never recorded Sting, I suppose it could be that his vocal dynamic is so wide that the vocals would otherwise get lost in the lute, and the mixer (who was also the engineer -- Donal Hodgson, I believe) had to level it out a bit.

Or perhaps they were trying to keep the same vocal quality for both the singing and the spoken word sections.

I would hate to think that it was recorded that way and they were just stuck with it.

In any event, and despite any disagreements I might have with the way it sounds, I think it's a refreshingly good CD and give props to Sting for doing it.

bunnerabb
November 14th, 2006, 04:24 PM
Wow.

That sounds like crap.

TSTW
November 14th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Sting - songs from the labyrinth (http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/special/?ID=sting-dowland)

I can almost count the hairs in El Stingo's nostrils, it's so harsh.


Heh heh!!

I don't get what Sting is all about. The Police albums were awesome. I suppose you must appreciate there was Summer and Copeland which made it. Fields of Gold was an okay album but then......

Gordon what are you doing?

bunnerabb
November 15th, 2006, 10:26 AM
Listen to his version of "Little Wing" and "Fortress".

That's what Sting's about.

The rest is arsing about.

I love Hugh's stuff, but Pete Smith, phone home.

studjo
November 15th, 2006, 08:41 PM
I stopped listening to Sting after his first solo record - only the Hiram solo on "little wing" brought me back for 20 seconds to listen again.