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Doylemusic
June 9th, 2008, 04:41 PM
Looking to buy a drum sample library that isn't just one style. I know the Slate stuff is good, but it seems to be all Rock forms (maybe I'm wrong). I want something I can use for Pop, Smooth Jazz, R&B. Any suggestions? I've also seen the Supersonic stuff and teh Big Fish Audio, but not sure what to do.
IntelDoc
June 9th, 2008, 05:34 PM
Slate stuff has ALOT! It requires Drumagog though.
The BIG bundle has alot more too btw.....
Lord Fader
June 9th, 2008, 06:30 PM
Big Fish and Ilio were the big guys for sample collections (not just drums). I haven't look into it in awhile though.
otek
June 11th, 2008, 12:49 AM
If you're planning to use it for sample replacement, there's nothing quite like sampling the kit you are working with.
If you're planning to program drums, there's nothing quite like getting phrase-based software instruments, alternatively one with a large number of multi-samples per drum and velocity level.
otek
dandeurloo
June 13th, 2008, 05:13 AM
You should use Matt Tobias from Empty House Studios. He's in omaha and he is an amazing player and great sounds. He might have some cool samples from stuff he has tracked.
Doylemusic
June 13th, 2008, 05:24 AM
You should use Matt Tobias from Empty House Studios. He's in omaha and he is an amazing player and great sounds. He might have some cool samples from stuff he has tracked.
Yeah, Matt is a great guy/player. How do u know him?
dandeurloo
June 13th, 2008, 05:38 AM
He is my old drum teacher and now I endorse him through my Drum company. He has great taste and feel. He has a ton of our drums and i have heard a number of his tracks and he has some sweet stuff coming out of his little room. I would try and hit him up for some snare and kick samples. they would at least be interesting sounds.
Doylemusic
June 13th, 2008, 06:00 PM
He is my old drum teacher and now I endorse him through my Drum company. He has great taste and feel. He has a ton of our drums and i have heard a number of his tracks and he has some sweet stuff coming out of his little room. I would try and hit him up for some snare and kick samples. they would at least be interesting sounds.
Ahhh, after I replied the first time, I saw the "Risen drums" in your signature and put it together. Maybe I'll hit him up. I was kinda after some bigger room, multi mic stuff. I can, and have, created some smaller room stuff of some great Vintage snares and still have acess to them and some kicks too. Buddy of mine has tons of vintage Gretsch, Ludwig, Slingerland, Leedy stuff. He's got a room full of about 50 snares!
P.S. The Risen stuff sounds reall good! I've obviously heard it in person. Good job.
otek
June 13th, 2008, 06:03 PM
I should mention the reason I recommended sampling the kit you're working on is for the purpose of realism. It's always a lot easier to "fit" a sample of the original drum into a kit, it tends to blend more naturally. This is, IF sample replacement is your objective.
If you are programming drums from scratch (which is a LOT harder to do than using groove libraries, if you want it to sound right), the important thing is to look for variations (multiple samples of the same velocity) and dynamics (sample from all dynamic registers).
Ultimately, however, if you have a great player in the vicinity, you may save tons on actually hire him to play the parts instead. Not to mention, get a better result.
Billing the client for days of programming work, rather than bringing in a drummer who could lay down an album's worth in a day, doesn't make a lot of sense from either a fiscal nor an artistic point of view.
otek
Kenny Gioia
June 13th, 2008, 06:14 PM
Slate stuff has ALOT! It requires Drumagog though.
The BIG bundle has alot more too btw.....
Is that true?
I thought it had WAVs too.
elroy jetson
June 13th, 2008, 06:41 PM
For BFD: Platinum Samples by Andy Johns and Joe Barresi https://www.platinumsamples.com/index.php. (https://www.platinumsamples.com/index.php)
Then there's Slate which you know. also the upcoming DFH Superior 2 looks pretty amazing. check out some videos (http://www.toontrack.com/videos/Namm_2008_S2.0_Demo_640x480.html) at Toontrack.com
IntelDoc
June 13th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Is that true?
I thought it had WAVs too.
Kenny no you are right there are wav files too, but I think that it sounds better thru drumagog. The multi timbral sounds more natural. If I want a driving kick though, your techniques plays hard into the equation.
Doylemusic
June 13th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Ultimately, however, if you have a great player in the vicinity, you may save tons on actually hire him to play the parts instead. Not to mention, get a better result.
Billing the client for days of programming work, rather than bringing in a drummer who could lay down an album's worth in a day, doesn't make a lot of sense from either a fiscal nor an artistic point of view.
otek
This would be for replacement or enhancement, not for programming. In most cases, programming and loops are fine, ontop of a real drum groove, not as an alternative to real drums IMO.
otek
June 13th, 2008, 11:56 PM
This would be for replacement or enhancement, not for programming. In most cases, programming and loops are fine, ontop of a real drum groove, not as an alternative to real drums IMO.
In that case, by all means augment with sample sets from wherever, but as a foundation it may be a good idea to consider sampling the actual kit you're working on.
otek
dandeurloo
June 14th, 2008, 11:03 PM
Doesn't Kenny have some samples as well? I thought I saw that some where.