Waiting for activating/deactivating in PT TDM

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Hi,
I have just added an additional mix farm to my system (Mix4), allocated more memory to PT and DAE and everytime I open a session with plugins ( many deactivated), I have to wait almost a minute or more to open a working session.

I mostly use Waves TDM plugins, but no more than 32 Q10s at a regular session, but the count process goes up to 64 (!!) or more of this very same plugin.

The same with deessers. I use very few to none, but the activating/deactivatng keeps counting de-essers up to 60.

Looking at the system usage window, I have many chips available.

BTW.. this system is pretty stable, which has made me stop (for a whileeeee) at 2 9.2.

System: mix 4 with 3 adat bridges, OS 9.2.2, PT 5.1.3, CPU usage towards 60%.

Thanks

[Charles Dye]

Hi,
I have just added an additional mix farm to my system (Mix4), allocated more memory to PT and DAE and everytime I open a session with plugins ( many deactivated), I have to wait almost a minute or more to open a working session.

I mostly use Waves TDM plugins, but no more than 32 Q10s at a regular session, but the count process goes up to 64 (!!) or more of this very same plugin.

The same with deessers. I use very few to none, but the activating/deactivatng keeps counting de-essers up to 60.

Looking at the system usage window, I have many chips available.

Howdy Alécio,

Thanks for coming by the womb!

About that deactivating/reactivating thing, or as I call it...

The Dance of the Plug-in Fairies

(The ultimate groove kill)

First of all, a minute is not a big deal for the opening of a mix session, so I wouldn't sweat that. And I don't know why it counts 32 plugz as 64 (probably a geeky programmer thing). But I may have a helpful suggestion.

Ya see, what's happening is that your MIX cards have chips with different amounts of memory. Some with lots. Some with little. This is cuz, for example, eqs don't usually need lots of memory, while verbs do. So far so good.

But the problem is that most plugz go to the big memory chips first, whether they need it or not. So, when a verb shows up (or some other memory hungry plug) there are no more hi memory chips left, cuz all the eqs + other low fat plugz have already used them up. What happens now?

Dance of the Plug-in Fairies

PT will unplug all your plugz + re plug them back in a more optimized way for the new verb. All is good. Right?

Well not really, cuz PT will continue to do this every single time it has a plug that needs more memory. And what happens? That's right. Another spin around the ballroom.

So, whats a poor protooler to do? Well, PT will open the plugz in the order they appear in the session. So, I stick all my FX plugz (verbs, delays, chorus, flange, etc) @ the top of the session, + this causes PT to open a lot of my hi memory plugz into the fat chipz the 1st time around. Much less dancing this way.

Try this out. See if it speeds up the opening of your session + causes less fairy action.

Hope this helps.

[Brendo]

could the doubling thing be mono vs stereo?

[Charles Dye]

Could be.

[Alécio Costa - Brazil]

Many thanks, bud!!!
It is nice to be here with you folks!

In fact I rarely use reverbers in my sessions while recording/mixing. Outboard gear and my digital boards take care of this.
Mostly: (TDM)
CB2, Q10, PAZ, LA2A, MC2000 4 band, one Mod (Long) Delay

I was mixing in this afternoon and I noticed the spinning process provided up to 90 Waves Q plugins while I was hardly reaching 30.

In my D24+DSP Farm+mix farm days I never faced such situations.

Thanks again
:)