autotune baffles my mind!

[vanityaffair]

okay, here goes. i'm running pro tools LE with the big guns mac pro, 6gig RAM and all that craziness. just purchased antares autotune and installed it as a RTAS plugin. Here's where the trouble starts: our vocal harmonies were tracked onto the same track in pro tools, with different clips for each section. when i attempt to use the graphic editor, i get it right for the part i'm working on, but should i try and move on to the next section, the graphic tuning i made is automatically applied to that section as well, making the part we're working with now the exact same notes as the previous (they are TOTALLY different).

my original thought would be something to do with the clock, but we're running a budget ship here (DD 002 rack -> Computer). How could I remedy this problem? Perhaps reinstall as a different type of plugin?

[fizbin]

Irrelevant here somewhat but I believe AutoTune only works (well) on monophonic matererial in mono.

when i attempt to use the graphic editor, i get it right for the part i'm working on, but should i try and move on to the next section, the graphic tuning i made is automatically applied to that section as well?

At what point is this applied to the second section? Before you bring it up in AutoTune or after? After you click apply for the second section or after the first?

[slabrock]

Um... if i understood correctly the clips are separate entities, you can't just scroll to them in the Autotune screen.

My suggestion would be: Paint one clip at a time, activate Autotune, do your graphics and save edit leaving the Autotune. And then on to the next clip.

Idea of tuneing whole harmonies at one time sounds strange, but if it works for you it must be right
:-D

Peace,

Slabrock

Edit: Sorry, i was for some reason answering in the Cubase SX3 platform, which is completely different piece of cake to Alsihad.

[Shan]

...when i attempt to use the graphic editor, i get it right for the part i'm working on, but should i try and move on to the next section, the graphic tuning i made is automatically applied to that section as well, making the part we're working with now the exact same notes as the previous (they are TOTALLY different)....

Autotune Tips. (http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB32&Number=871772&Forum=,,All_Forums,,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&Main=871764&Search=true&where=&Name=17356&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post871772)

In my link above you will find 'how to' tips for graphical mode and the basic working method I use. I have streamlined this over the years but you'll get the basic idea. Graphical mode and bussing are best for transparent tuning and speed.

Shane

[Brendo]

okay, here goes. i'm running pro tools LE with the big guns mac pro, 6gig RAM and all that craziness. just purchased antares autotune and installed it as a RTAS plugin. Here's where the trouble starts: our vocal harmonies were tracked onto the same track in pro tools, with different clips for each section. when i attempt to use the graphic editor, i get it right for the part i'm working on, but should i try and move on to the next section, the graphic tuning i made is automatically applied to that section as well, making the part we're working with now the exact same notes as the previous (they are TOTALLY different).

The way I used to do this in PT, when I was into self-torturing myself with antares products, was:

Cut the audio into phrase by phrase blocks. Audiosuite each block of audio. Then there's a clear all button on the left, assuming AT5. Otherwise, select all, and cut.

I'm sure there's a better way. Check Shan's link.

[Charles Dye]

Great tips, Shan. Thanks!

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VA,

Basically, if I understand your scenario, after graphically tuning a phrase, you should always print it to another track.

Graphic tuning works only on one phrase @ a time. You must then clear the data from AT before you go to the next phrase + then start all over.

Not sure if I'm making it any clearer. Hope so.

[Shan]

Great tips, Shan. Thanks!

Many more on the way and in a great visual format. Stay tuned. :)


But, one of the better AT tips I actually got from you Charles via our phone conversation many months ago. I think I was ranting a bit about the many AT jobs I was getting and jacking up my price to avoid the AT jobs. Your tip was, "I dont own Autotune. You guys will have to sort that stuff out before you bring me your mix." :very happy:

That was one of the better AT tips I've used. :Thumbsup:

Shane

[Charles Dye]

Yes, one of my faves.

[otek]

Autotune Tips


That's an awesome tip, and one I am about to try very soon.

Thanks Shan!


"I dont own Autotune. You guys will have to sort that stuff out before you bring me your mix."

:lol: so simple and elegant.

[FredSanford]

I think Melodyne is a much better tool for the dreaded job. They have a new plugin version that works right inside the DAW and they offer a competitve upgrade for owners of AT. I own both now but I never use AT.

[PSN Big Al]

I have the new Melodyne plugin and it rocks. Thought I might be getting AT, but now I just don't think I'll need it.

[Brendo]

What's the deal with that plugin, I couldn't make sense of what was on the Celemony website...

[PSN Big Al]

Check for the video demo - it will really fill you in.

[idaguide]

Big Al is right...
To paraphrase ITBChaz...Melodyne "ROX."
It has its own metaphor, but once "you've done your time, you hear the rhyme..."

Don't just go for UNO, though...at least go to Cre8. Then you can play with multi-harmonies as well as all the other stuff.

You just gotta get used to the 'blobs.' And they're actually kinda cool.

g

[Brendo]

Check for the video demo - it will really fill you in.

I know what Melodyne does, I was more thinking about the integration into the host, how does that work? The videos were real vague about this.

[PSN Big Al]

I know what Melodyne does, I was more thinking about the integration into the host, how does that work? The videos were real vague about this.

With the new version it's just an RTAS plugin. There's no more Rewire or Melodyne Bridge to futz around with.

It's a very cool concept. You first run the song and play all the audio you want to work with into the plug. You make your edits and as it plays back it automatically plays straight from the track until it comes to an edit at which time it switches to the edited audio correction. When it comes the end of the correction it auto switches back to the source track.

It's kind of like an auto-punching, pitch-correcting, editing thingy. :grin:

[Brendo]

ahhhh... clever... so it's basically the autotune method described above, but with the melodyne interface...

is there a limit to how many instances you can run?

[PSN Big Al]

Only your CPU as far as I know.

[Simon]

is there a limit to how many instances you can run?

I've had up to 8 plus the rest (doesn't say much for the singin :Roll eyes: ).

I agree with Al - this new plug in version runs rings around the previous versions and is REAL SIMPLE to use (you don't really even need to read the instructions - unless all else fails).

I've never used Auto Tune and would be interested to know how it differs from Melodyne.

[Simon]

one little issue I have with it is when a singer is singing in a rough/gravelly voice, melodyne isn't able to fully interpret the formants as well as it does a more smooth voice.:Thumbdown:

[Skwaidu]

one little issue I have with it is when a singer is singing in a rough/gravelly voice, melodyne isn't able to fully interpret the formants as well as it does a more smooth voice.:Thumbdown:

AT has the same "problem".

[TSTW]

AT has the same "problem".

Absolutely