Charles Dye's Studio Acoustics

[paulcezanne]

Hi all,
i have just received my MILAR and would wonder if there are some people out there who are interested in the acoustic treatments Charles did on his studio (as far as I can see in the video)?
What material is hidden behind the walls, which things absorbing, which things offer diffusion? I saw many glass (especially to the recording room), glass tables which cause reflections which I am always try to avoid. Bytheway, I also have much glass here (also glass table) but I have worked on my listening room now for half a year and I am quite satisfied with it. Maybe also Charles could give us some informations about his acoustic treatments.

Best regards from Germany,
paulcezanne.:Roll eyes:

[Mikey MTC]

Hi all,
i have just received my MILAR and would wonder if there are some people out there who are interested in the acoustic treatments Charles did on his studio (as far as I can see in the video)?
What material is hidden behind the walls, which things absorbing, which things offer diffusion? I saw many glass (especially to the recording room), glass tables which cause reflections which I am always try to avoid. Bytheway, I also have much glass here (also glass table) but I have worked on my listening room now for half a year and I am quite satisfied with it. Maybe also Charles could give us some informations about his acoustic treatments.

Best regards from Germany,
paulcezanne.:Roll eyes:


The shots of the studio are Supersonic in Florida which is not actually Charles' studio so I don't know how much he will able to say about the acoustics.

Was the track mixed at Supersonic Charles? I was going pick your brains about the D-Control because we've just got one and I can see already that it's going to revolutionize my mixing totally.

[PSN Big Al]

I know that Charles does have a very good acouctic treatment that he uses and recommends, and that's REALTRAPS by Ethan Winer.

Here's the site: http://RealTraps.com

There are also some great videos there on studio acoustics and treatments.


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[paulcezanne]

Hi Al and Mikey!
Thanks for the answers. I was hoping that I am not the only one who is interested in studio acoustics. And that's why I knew that I can count on "Big Al" here. Thanks. I had also some email conversation with Ethan Winer from Realtraps and his videos are fantastic. But to send the equipment from the states to europe was a little bit to expensive, that I decided to buy some cheaper stuff here and re-designed my studio completely. By the way: Ethan Winer has great stuff and great prices!!! Nice guy.
Now I only wanna know from Charles, about the amount of glass he has in his studio. But as I have learnt now - it is not his own studio. Maybe then he can tell us someday, what great treatments he has in his own studio.

Best, paulcezanne.

[Charles Dye]

Mikey's right. Supersonic Studios (http://www.supersonicstudios.com/) is where we shot MiLaR. It's one of the most gorgeous ICON rooms I've ever seen + was featured on the cover of Mix Mag (http://www.gustavocelis.com/supersonic/img/ICON_SUPERSONIC_Ad.pdf) the month after we finished shooting.

Brilliantly conceived by talented engineer/mixer/producer, Gustavo Celis (http://www.gustavocelis.com/), as a hybrid studio that seamlessy integrates a huge collection of great sounding analog + digital outboard gear with an ICON. Basically, every piece of gear in the room has a dedicated + labeled i/o on the PT system that can be instantly accessed in the i/o menu. It's faster than a patchbay + extremely intutive. No fumbling required.

As far as acoustics, I don't really know the answer to your question, but I know Gustavo worked together with studio designers Pilchner Schoustal International (http://www.pilchner-schoustal.com/) on Supersonic. Nonetheless, a great sounding room.

And yes, @ my personal studio The Gate (where we originally mixed "She Loves Me") I have RealTraps + RPG acoustic treatments, which both do a great job. Highly recommended.

[tptman]

Charles' home studio The Gate is a great example of not over-doing it. It is a relatively smallish room on the back of his house with some minimal treatment (the aforementioned real traps). Stocked with his PT rig, a Control24, NS-10s, and not a lot more, Charles is able to get his work done as quickly and skillfully as if he were at a high dollar studio.

I think a lot of guys just getting into the game feel like they have to have a fully floated room, ADAM S3-As, and a ton of outboard gear to get a good sound. Charles proves what we all know but sometimes aren't brave enough to prove: it's about the chops, not the gear.

[Charles Dye]

Thanx, dood. Way too kind.

[matt allison]

Hi Charles,

Any chance you could post a pic or 2 of 'The Gate'? It would be great to see you in your 'Home' environment. Is your place only for mixing or have you tried to incorporate a small booth for basic overdubs as well?

Cheers

Matt

[PSN Big Al]

Hi Charles,

Any chance you could post a pic or 2 of 'The Gate'?

Yessir...I second that request!

Do you still have that Argosy console Charles?

[Charles Dye]

The Gate is actually in the process of moving into a new building. It was time to move the studio out of the house. So, I'll post pix once she's set-up + not looking like a mess.

And yes, I still have my Argosy. I love their consoles. They really are beautifully designed + well built.

[andrew schaap]

which argosy model do you have charles? i was looking into getting one and then decided i didn't have the money so I'm now in the process of building a console that is ending up as a cross between an argosy and an omnirax. should be done in a couple weeks. it's a great learning experience and I figure it will save me over a $1000. i'll post pix too if anyone is interested in a DIY approach.

[Charles Dye]

A 70 Series.

[Ethan Winer]

Hi guys!

Thanks for the comments Paul. Charles invited me to stop by and visit, and I have to say this is a very cool place. The Forum FAQ had me in stitches. :lol:

Anyway, if anyone wants to talk about acoustics or studio layouts etc, I'm down. Of course, I'm just as happy to talk about anything else related to audio too! One of the great things Charles has done with MiLaR is show the huge benefits of mixing "in the box." Me, I sold all my outboard gear 5 years ago, and I've never looked back. :Thumbsup:

--Ethan

[Charles Dye]

Ethan!

Thanks for stopping by. Ethan's RealTraps (http://www.realtraps.com/) ROKK!! But @ the same X he is a great writer + educator about acoustics. To read any of the really informative + easily understood articles he has about acoustics on his site visit here (http://www.realtraps.com/info.htm).

Killer info, Ethan. :Thumbsup:

[PSN Big Al]

Anyway, if anyone wants to talk about acoustics or studio layouts etc, I'm down.

Hey there Ethan!

So glad to see you here! :grin:

I love how informative your web site is and the videos are
just awesome. We refer folks to them all the time on the
show.

And, I've got to tell you, your "A Cello Rondo" is THE coolest
thing I've seen/heard in a long time! For those of you that
haven't seen it, enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVsFfzB-0hs

[Charles Dye]

Yes it is! I love that video.

[Watershed]

Fantastic!

[MacGregor]

Wow, that video is absofuckingtastic!

Great ideas, Ethan!

[Ethan Winer]

your "A Cello Rondo" is THE coolest thing I've seen/heard in a long time! For those of you that haven't seen it, enjoy...

Thanks very much! There's also links on my personal site to high-res versions, if you actually care enough to download a 45 MB file. :very happy:

www.ethanwiner.com/rondo.html

I'm hard at work now on a follow-up, though instead of all-cello this one is mainly Telecaster guitar, with bass and drums and synths etc. By the end I'm aiming to have 30 players all on stage at once.

--Ethan

[MacGregor]

I'm hard at work now on a follow-up, though instead of all-cello this one is mainly Telecaster guitar, with bass and drums and synths etc. By the end I'm aiming to have 30 players all on stage at once.

--Ethan

BTW, what software did you use for the video edits, especially
the overlay parts?

[andrew schaap]

thanks for that high-res link. i was going to inquire about that but you beat me to it. sounds great!:Thumbsup:

[Ethan Winer]

Mac,

> what software did you use for the video edits, especially the overlay parts? <

I did it all in Vegas Video. Mostly learning as I went. :very happy:

--Ethan

[halfguard]

pretty cool!