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    Thinking in counterpoint rather than chords is also a lot of making it sound real.
    Actually, John Williams uses "chords" to spell out a lot of his melodies.

    The key to making it sound smooth is to use block chords and appropriate inversions so you're not jumping around with a lot of root triads.

    A good example of this, is the brass section blasting out the REBELS THEME while the Star Destroyer pursues the smaller ship at the beginning of STAR WARS.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2J5Oifxp7w (1:56 in)
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    yes, that's traditional

    might one ask why you're jumping into a 7 year old thread?
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    yes, that's traditional

    might one ask why you're jumping into a 7 year old thread?
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    Not that real estate has been a problem here of late.


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    Not that real estate has been a problem here of late.


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    I stumbled across this thread during a search and found the discussion intriguing.
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    I stumbled across this thread during a search and found the discussion intriguing.
    And I'm just teasing. Feel free to post anywhere you like.


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    I stumbled across this thread during a search
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    Please be careful when wandering around the older sections while inebriated - we'd hate for you to stumble over and break some priceless artifact.

    Eh, it's all going to landfill soon anyway!
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    Eh, it's all going to landfill soon anyway!
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    Dibs on all the copper wiring.
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    It's a good thread that I hadn't seen before. Glad it surfaced again...

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    It's a good thread that I hadn't seen before. Glad it surfaced again...
    Decomposition tends to make dead things buoyant.


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    Decomposition tends to make dead things buoyant.


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    Hmm, I think there's some sort of "orchestral decomposition" joke floating in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to think of it...
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    At some point, every composer decomposes.
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    By decomposing popular songs you can learn lot about attack and decay.
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    But mostly decay
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    The soundtrack to Peter Greenaway's "A Zed and Two Noughts"?
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    Hmm, I think there's some sort of "orchestral decomposition" joke floating in there somewhere, but I'm too tired to think of it...
    Well for the orchestral musicians I know, all it takes for the orchestra to decompose is one trumpet player left unsupervised. Which is why attendence by their wives is always preferred..

    One reason I'm interested in the resurrection of this thread is that 7 years is a pretty long time for anything involving software. I'm no expert, but I'll bite by saying that I've moved from Finale 7 years ago to Notion today, and from Miroslav to the current EWQL, and man…

    The thing I like about something like Notion, is the ability to create custom rules that react to different things in the score (hairpins, articulations, durations, techniques, which spelling/string etc.) and then map them to different samples, MIDI CC, channels, note gaps, durations, or whatever. Still a lot of work, but once you have something you like and fits what you do, IMO its fairly re-usable and lets you go back to spending most of your time in the music.

    Aww, maybe I'm supposed to hear it all in my head, but having a sample orchestra as my tireless bitch …
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    Yes. That's a fairly standard full orchestra layout.

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