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    I think the bigger and simpler point is being missed, although Dave kind of touched it for a second.

    I don't think this stuff is something wrong with the internet. It's more basic. It is, in simplest terms, about attention problems.

    I know that at least once in the past around here, there has been some talk about something that Pat Metheny talked about once upon a time in an interview, that I thought was just brilliant. He hit something on the head.

    He called the phenomenon "option anxiety". He was talking about people dealing with musical situations where there were a large set of options available in one way or another. Maybe it's some digital uber wonder synth with 1000 patches (and another stack of extra patch libraries ready to load in). Maybe signal processors. Et Cetera.

    The point was that he thought it was a real attention and focus problem in the sense that you could find yourself getting just plain distracted from the stuff at hand, a piece of music, with players in a room, because a person is getting derailed going off punching through a bazillion presets and giving each one just a few seconds of attention before jumping to the next one. The "option anxiety" being all about having some nagging, compulsive urge to keep checking out the next one, and the next one, and the next one, because of some anxiety that if you settle on something and really dig into it, you might miss some other really cool thing in the million possibilities you haven't checked out yet.

    It's the same stuff here.

    It's really not about the internet (the web, specifically, really), it's about a kind of neurosis.


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    We could probably take this into a lot of different areas and draw similarities in


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    Is it really "shiny objects", though, or is it more like pebbles on the beach. So many of them...you just stop paying attention, and then they all start to seem the same.
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    Is it really "shiny objects", though, or is it more like pebbles on the beach. So many of them...you just stop paying attention, and then they all start to seem the same.
    That's pretty much exactly what I think about the phenomenon of "I gots me 1500 songs in my iPod (and I don't really listen to any of them)".


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    Yep, and that's the crux of this "problem" I'm citing with the internet. There is too much and access is too easy. All commodities lose their value when there is a massive glut.

    And another major factor is that everyone now senses the lack of gatekeepers. McCartney is churning around with DJ Whackintosh and every wannabe metal overlord and club diva on MySpace and YouTube. I think when the bar gets lowered simply by a natural lowering of the common denominator, people start to expect lower value across the board, which means everyone's perceived quality suffers.
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    Any Motown or Beatles hit would be a great example.

    Jumping Jack Flash - Stones

    Tocatta & fugue in Dm - J. S. Bach

    Sunshine of Your Love - Cream

    Rhapsody in Blue - George Gershwin

    Come As You Are - Nirvana

    5th Symphony - Beethoven

    Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper

    Time Is Running Out - Muse

    Big Bang Baby - STP
    Not sure what it means but aside from the classical pieces you list, I own all these songs and they are certainly favorites. The only classical pieces I own are Dvorak's Symphony for the New World and the Four Seasons by Vivadi.

    I know when I first started writing my own music I was always told to hook 'em up front - The person you are trying to sell it to will only give it about 10 to 15 seconds before they move on.
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