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    anyhoo Ethan is what he is... he is a brilliant musician.
    I'm not so sure about this... are there any recordings to back up Ethan's supposed brilliance?

    Or do you mean that he's a "brilliant musician" in the sense that he's highly reflective when playing music?
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    Ethan is good as anyone I studied with at the conservatory

    He has some skills..............
    Fair enough

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    If you were talking to a group of bartenders or builders you might use the phrase "he's a brilliant musician" as he is conservatory level.

    If you come and say that on a forum of professional sound engineers, you might want to rephrase that to "he plays an instrument".
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    O great, an argument about what "brilliant" means. A good example of why sensible debates are a rarity around here.
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    O great, an argument about what "brilliant" means. A good example of why sensible debates are a rarity around here.
    Now when you say "rarity," do you really mean sometimes, not often, plenty.....could you define rarity, please?

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    O great, an argument about what "brilliant" means. A good example of why sensible debates are a rarity around here.
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    I suggest we should create a scale so we could clearly define the level of musicianship.

    It could become something like :
    1. worst ever heard musician
    2. bad ...
    3. just ok
    4. ok
    5. good musician
    6. extremely good
    7. great musician
    8. brilliant
    9. genius
    10. God

    Of course, it then would be necessary to be able to measure this...

    What's annoying with all this discussions, is that it makes an awful ground noise that tend to make it really difficult to come trough and listen and be careful only to the "good" stuff.

    IOW, aren't people willing to learn be able to make their own decisions ?
    They could be misleaded (I've certainly been in this case), but recording is like every other art : one has to go trough trial and errors to learn, being misleaded make's the journey longer but doesn't make it impossible to do.

    More than that, after having been misleaded, you then start to think twice about something before simply believe it.
    And that could be of some help : learning to learn and to think.
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    Or do you mean that he's a "brilliant musician" in the sense that he's highly reflective when playing music?
    Hope he kept some back inventory...
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    1. worst ever heard musician - Yoko Ono
    2. bad ... - David Bowie (sometimes)
    3. just ok - Nick Cave
    4. ok - Ringo Starr
    5. good musician - David Bowie (sometimes)
    6. extremely good - Joe Strummer
    7. great musician - Stevie Wonder
    8. brilliant - Moondog
    9. genius - Bach, Wagner,Tchaikovsky et al.
    10. God - Ronnie James "Dio"
    11. Beyond classification - Ethan Winer
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    anyhoo Ethan is what he is... he is a decent amateur musician. He knows something about acoustics as applied to small home studios.
    Fixed it for ya.

    I don't think that even Ethan would claim that he's a "brilliant" musician.

    He plays the cello. Great. So does my cousin Debbie, who, as it happens, is a brilliant biochemist.

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    anyhoo Ethan is what he is... he is a brilliant musician.
    I'm sorry, this is just too amusing to pass up twice.

    I think it helps to have worked with a brilliant musician to recognize one. Like I recorded David Lindley. He's brilliant. I'm not going to make this a name dropping exercise, but I would like you to describe to me someone you've recorded that is brilliant. Just so we have a gauge of reference.

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    Fixed it for ya.

    I don't think that even Ethan would claim that he's a "brilliant" musician.

    He plays the cello. Great. So does my cousin Debbie, who, as it happens, is a brilliant biochemist.

    ROSTROPOVICH was a brilliant cellist.




    So was Casals



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    I'm sorry, this is just too amusing to pass up twice.

    I think it helps to have worked with a brilliant musician to recognize one. Like I recorded David Lindley.
    I remember him from Jackson browne's band
    I don't think he's brilliant. And he's a goofball

    but I would like you to describe to me someone you've recorded that is brilliant.
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    If you were talking to a group of bartenders or builders you might use the phrase "he's a brilliant musician" as he is conservatory level.

    If you come and say that on a forum of professional sound engineers, you might want to rephrase that to "he plays an instrument".
    I think we straitened this out a few posts back
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    1. worst ever heard musician - Yoko Ono
    2. bad ... - David Bowie (sometimes)
    3. just ok - Nick Cave
    4. ok - Ringo Starr
    5. good musician - David Bowie (sometimes)
    6. extremely good - Joe Strummer
    7. great musician - Stevie Wonder
    8. brilliant - Moondog
    9. genius - Bach, Wagner,Tchaikovsky et al.
    10. God - Ronnie James "Dio"
    11. Beyond classification - Ethan Winer
    lol Joe Strummer sucks
    Yoko was somewhere in the deadcat squealing category
    don't know who nick cave is. Never heard of moondog
    saying ringo is "OK" is a stretch. Maybe "He had a pulse" is better?
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    vocal performance of all epics.
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    lol Joe Strummer sucks
    Yoko was somewhere in the deadcat squealing category
    don't know who nick cave is. Never heard of moondog
    saying ringo is "OK" is a stretch. Maybe "He had a pulse" is better?
    Love Dio, Huge Elf fan myself. Wonderworld was the most epic
    vocal performance of all epics.
    Nick Cave is pretty well known. I like him as a songwriter, but as a "musician" or rather as a singer, he more or less talks. It suits his style but meh.

    Moondog is strangely moving in a magical sort of a way. Real name - Louis Thomas Hardin, 1916 - 1999. Weird unusual mixture of styles, he composed music for all sorts of instruments and merged classical harmonies/melodies with jazzy and experimental stuff. What I like is that his music speaks of a century lost to us, but rather than the imagery of small spaces (typical of a lot jazz - at least I feel that) with it's whisky glasses and hooker clichés, I find his music describes panoramic shots of cities of another epoch, like a figure too far away in the mist to be seen properly, but close enough that we can see a fuzzy outline.

    Fantastic.

    Most famous song (but by no means representative) is
    Bird's Lament.

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    As for Dio, I've hardly heard anything by him, it's just that "Dio" means God
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