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    A friend of mine just lent me a clarinet, a wooden one... I love the sound of the thing, I really do.

    Anyone have any tips on learning how to play it? I am doing some lessons but just thought I'd see if any wombians have any advice as you guys are always full of good tidbits
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    I can only offer sympathy, as a former euphonium player I could never for the life of me figure out how to even make a sound on a reed instrument.

    Something to do with vibrating your lips and sticking your tongue somewhere. eehhhh.

    One time in school a dude didn't change his reed for so long that when he did, there was a roach in it. Better make sure this isn't your problem, first.
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    I used to play in a band with a guy that started with clarinet, and his mom was a music major on clarinet.

    His advantage was that once you learn the fingering for clarinet, then learning the saxes or flutes is a simple jump. Going the other way I understand is a bitch.

    So go ahead and learn to wrap your hands around that long dark object in your mouth, it can lead to many other things.
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    We expect you to have this tune nailed by the end of the week.


    Man! You have GOT to try a hit of this RANGE SUNSHINE!

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    I used to play when I was in high school.

    I chose clarinet because the embrochure is the same as sax...and they had sax in rock bands, and rock bands get girls, right?

    I can only suggest persevering with the lessons, as this is an instrument with no shortcuts.

    Then - just for fun - learn Woody Herman's Golden Wedding.


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    Just for encouragement- on of the best players I've ever recorded is a guy who took up clarinet in his twenties.
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    Anyone have any tips on learning how to play it? I am doing some lessons but just thought I'd see if any wombians have any advice as you guys are always full of good tidbits
    I don't know shit about clarinet, and I'm probably stating the obvious,
    but get the best teacher you can afford,
    and listen to shitloads of great clarinet playing,
    be it on record or, preferably, live.

    I think the most difficult task while learning a new instrument is not to develop bad habits.

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    We expect you to have this tune nailed by the end of the week.


    You're too kind Nobby. I think we should expect:



    After all as an ex-girlfriend clarinet player once told me, "it's all about pressing the lips together and blowing". There was something more after that, but I was distracted.

    Anyhow, at least it's not a trumpet. I tried that out for a while. Being relegated to open farm fields kilometres away from other human beings was not conducive to good practice habits.
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    After all as an ex-girlfriend clarinet player once told me, "it's all about pressing the lips together and blowing". There was something more after that, but I was distracted.
    It was about the tongue action. Not for nothing is it called a woodwind instrument. Until you learn to blow properly, you suck.

    You're too kind Nobby. I think we should expect:
    That song is kind of long for a beginner. I don't know if he has the lung power yet.

    Let him do a shorter song first. Even an old man can make it through this one (although not without breaking a sweat).


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    We expect you to have this tune nailed by the end of the week.

    (Gershwin)
    …and your next challenge will be this one. If you can play it, you can play anything:



    …and of course, this (yes they can play it live and sound exactly like it):

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    After all as an ex-girlfriend clarinet player once told me, "it's all about pressing the lips together and blowing". There was something more after that, but I was distracted.
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    Holy shit, Lauren Bacall is your ex girlfriend?!?!?!?!?
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    Awesome links! I have to say I'm more interested in the gypsy or oriental or Klezmer type clarinet playing... here's an example below (I know I've been harping on about manouche lately but this clarinet seriously kicks ass (especially towards the end)

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    been there, done that, gave it up.

    My daughter took up clarinet in the school band a few years back. I was fairly excited to have a new instrument around the house and decided I would learn along with her.

    So she brought the thing home and 3 of us tried to get it to sound a note for 2 WEEKS!!!

    Finally, by accident, one of the kids actually got it to sound, the rest of soon caught on.

    I figured out the notes and realized that it was going to be a tough one. The cool thing is, the lowest notes sound so fantastic. I showed my daughter how to play "My Girl".

    Micing it was a mystery, but someone on here explained that you mike the BODY, about a foot or so away facing the finger holes. DO NOT mic it from the bell.

    My daughter gave it a good run for about a year, but one particularly tough piece took her out and we had to get rid of it.

    the technique apparently transfers over to sax.

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    I have to say I'm more interested in the gypsy or oriental or Klezmer type clarinet playing...
    Then buy a G Clarinet and listen to Hüsnü Senlendirici (the guy above) and Vassilis Saleas till you throw up -both Romany virtuosos from Turkey and Greece respectively. In fact you can find a few duets by them on Youtube to see the style differences and how an instrument could be mastered in two distinctive styles.

    If you have a C or Bb Clarinet then forget playing that style because the mechanical layouts of them will not allow you to play the stuff they can do on a G order as far as I am told by the players of that style. Apparently they are more suitable for classical stuff, but not for those whom are interested in bending weird notes etc, like Louisiana jazz players or Balkan Gypsy stuff.

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    …and your next challenge will be this one. If you can play it, you can play anything:
    How do you say, "that kicks ass" in Turkish?

    …and of course, this (yes they can play it live and sound exactly like it):
    Piece of cake. I listened to it twice and then played it flawlessly on a penny whistle
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    Micing it was a mystery, but someone on here explained that you mike the BODY, about a foot or so away facing the finger holes. DO NOT mic it from the bell.
    OH yeah. The only note that comes out of the bell is the low one with all the holes closed. fa-mi-re-DO!
    I learned that the first time I tried to record a bassoon.
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    How do you say, "that kicks ass" in Turkish?
    "Yarmish gechmish"


    Piece of cake. I listened to it twice and then played it flawlessly on a penny whistle
    Didn't you?

    This was the closest I saw a westerner managed to get:




    And this is a bootleg of the original band, Laço Tayfa, playing it live early this year:

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    Once you're done with Nobby's and Barish's suggestions, here's another one for you to tackle until next week:






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    HEEEEELLLP!! I'm getting overwhelmed!

    No seriously, excellent stuff all round...

    Barish: thanks for the tip on the G clarinet. If I get good I may buy an Amati Turkish clarinet. For now I'll stick to the one they lent me but luckily it follows the German/Albert system like the Turkish ones...

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    I need to train for the next Cape!
    So is someone else... apparently:




    …with your favourite clarinet player, hehe:
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