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    Default dynamics on guitar cabinets

    http://recordinghacks.com/2014/12/12...ar-cab-corral/

    While this shootout may have focused on recording, looking at options for dynamics on cabinets is always useful. Also, interesting that they strongly advocated for a center of the cone and right by the grill placement. The idea of placing it a little off axis and a little farther away is tossed around like gospel, so I'm used to seeing that. I was also likely to get some of those fathead mics with the lundahl transformers in them to keep in my work inventory (unless I can get them to go for the Royers which I quite like) as more cabinet mic options although thats no longer talking about dynamic mics. I had a good go with those Heil mics too, btw.
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    Default Re: dynamics on guitar cabinets

    http://recordinghacks.com/2014/12/12...ar-cab-corral/

    While this shootout may have focused on recording, looking at options for dynamics on cabinets is always useful. Also, interesting that they strongly advocated for a center of the cone and right by the grill placement. The idea of placing it a little off axis and a little farther away is tossed around like gospel, so I'm used to seeing that. I was also likely to get some of those fathead mics with the lundahl transformers in them to keep in my work inventory (unless I can get them to go for the Royers which I quite like) as more cabinet mic options although thats no longer talking about dynamic mics. I had a good go with those Heil mics too, btw.
    a ribbon mic IS a 'dynamic' mic, just like a moving-coil mic is.
    they're just two different types of dynamic microphones.

    I more often than not mic the centre of the cone, and right up on the grill, FWIW. at least as a starting point.
    (though almost never with a moving coil, and only a minority percentage of the time with a ribbon... mostly, as often stated, I like condensers)
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    as an aside:

    I'm getting sick to death of every HINT or tip being called a "hack" now

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    Default Re: dynamics on guitar cabinets

    How do ya get a guitar player to turn down?

    Put a sheet of music in front of him
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    Default Re: dynamics on guitar cabinets

    as an aside:

    I'm getting sick to death of every HINT or tip being called a "hack" now

    hipster speak
    I thought it was just me...

    With you on the ribbon/dynamic divide as well. Sets my teeth on edge every time.
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    Default Re: dynamics on guitar cabinets

    While I'm well aware that ribbon mics are dynamic, I made mention of them particularly as they weren't included in the original shootout. Sometimes a royer on a cabinet is a great combo.
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    How do ya get a guitar player to turn down?

    Put a sheet of music in front of him
    Did you hear about the saxman who bragged he could play 32nd notes?
    The rest of the band didn't believe him, so he proved it by playing one.
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    as an aside:

    I'm getting sick to death of every HINT or tip being called a "hack" now

    hipster speak
    I'm with you on this; a "hack" should be that awful player you never want ot be in a band with, not a helpful hint.
    The emotionally and tonally deaf cannot hear the important things and never will. They will scream to the heavens the rest of us are wrong and produce useless papers to prove their point.
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    I'm with you on this; a "hack" should be that awful player you never want ot be in a band with, not a helpful hint.
    My unofficial definition is 'a hint given by an idiot to other idiots.'

    As for mic placement on guitar, it surely just depends. I don't buy that bit about a mic on the centre of the cone allowing the playback speaker to 'become' the guitar speaker, that's all a bit voodoo sounding to me. It's just the brightest punchiest spot with probably the most phase coherence at the mic over the whole area of the speaker cone. I usually start there but the only time I've stayed there is when the guitarist has a warm tone that needed all the high end I could get.
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    I 'discovered' that dead centre gave a less comb filtery sound for myself years ago. It's rare that I venture away from that now, I'd rather EQ anything I need to afterwards than fight against comb filtering in mix. Unless the record needs that sound, but I'd say it's a rare occurrence that something sounds better WITH comb filtering.
    I'm probably talking shit.

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    Default Re: dynamics on guitar cabinets

    I never mix the center of the cone, except when I do.
    I'm a fan of cheese!

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