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    I'm curious as to what tricks you use to create excitement in your mixes?

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    Since you said TRICKS...

    On upbeat tunes I still use a trick Harvey Gerst passed on which is putting a cowbell ahead of the beat but down in the mix to where you can just barely hear it. I find it a funny one, It is almost impossible to hear, but when you mute it, it seems the song slows down a bit. I like using it when the chorus first kicks in or after the bridge at the end of the song.
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    For me, the big thing has always been observing and augmenting the natural dynamics of the song.

    And of course, having an exciting performance of a good song to begin with!


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    I always begin each session by getting nude and dancing this wiccan reminiscing, intense, sort of mental asylum inspired set of impossible body movement to infuse a beefed up version of induced holy awesomeness packed up in neat surroundings cutting through the edge of seemingly multiversal tendencies stretching across the room towards the material I'm about to mix.

    If there is no excitement to begin with - it's hard to induce it. It can be enhanced if it's there - but hardly created. Well - it sort of may. That's called Skrillex, Avicii and SHM.
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    Phil Spector would produce a handgun.
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    Phil Spector would produce a handgun.
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    Get the whole band to put their 2c in. Oh wait, I thought you said excrement.
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    I like everybody else's answers so far. But you could also try adding delays. Try them on anything. Long short subtle obvious. I've seen it work wonders when you stumble on the right one on the right part.
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    I read on gearslutz that a lot of people sum their mix to mono, hpf it then blend it back in with the stereo mix...
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    Firecrackers!

    Lotsa firecrackers!
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    Firecrackers!

    Lotsa firecrackers!
    Actually, Jaco Pastorius is said to have added the explosions on his rendering of Blackbird/Word Of Mouth by setting off firecrackers in the Capitol echo chamber.



    The most obvious example starts around 31:52.


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    If I get something that sounds unexciting and am prevented to Aardvark it, (well - I am my own Aardvark now since I don't record/mix others any more), I'd say tamper with the timing. Even if to shuffle small parts around until it resembles tightness.

    A song that sucks will at least be bearable if it has a traceable rhythmic pattern.

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    Dave Pensado did a wee feature on using chipmunk vocals to tickle the ear, pretty effective!
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    Chipmonk vocals on death metal might be amusing.
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    I read on gearslutz that a lot of people sum their mix to mono, hpf it then blend it back in with the stereo mix...

    that could work... if you highpass to 15k
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    that could work... if you highpass to 15k
    Ah, so is that the "vocal air" trick?
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    I always listen to what's there in the song. I might lift something (bass, guitars etc) to offset a certain song section from the others. If a band starts all at once (be it a song start or section after pause) I found it is very important to line up everything. There usually be some string noises or somebody would start ahead of the beat, and those things reduce impact significantly. And I often lift that first drum hit quite a bit.
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    Chipmonk vocals on death metal might be amusing.
    Have you heard the Radio Disney covers of Cannibal Corpse / Behemoth? - They are brilliant!

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    Someone, Weedy I think, mentioned raising the master fader a decibel during the chorus.

    When you get to specifics it depends on the song. The producer should be saying she needs a little more of this or less of that for the intended arrangement. Oops, no producer? Tag, you're it!

    If something is significant in the mix I don't want that element buried. There was a song in which the ghost hits on the snare drum really helped to propel the song but they were getting buried under the rhythm guitars. I think I wound up changing the drums mix, lowering the guitars slightly, EQing and riding the fader on the snare.

    In another song there is a 2 second long guitar riff, the only thing on 2 separate tracks, that leads into the final pre-chorus. It's significant enough that if I want to hear it above the rhythm guitars. BGVs start just where it ends. I'm actually in the middle of working on that, but some combination of automating the rhythm guitars and the riff, maybe using EQ, maybe adding some delay.

    Step one: identify which elements add excitement at which time

    Step two: emphasise those elements

    The arrangement should already be there in the tracks. Unless it isn't. Or something.

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    2 minute snare roll.
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