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    Your Master Bus is in the red...
    Edit: now it's a clippy mess.
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    Master in the red for a long time…… not a good thing……...
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    Ouch ! It sounds like fuck... and not the good kind
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    So much power, master buss is confused.
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    Never mind - not worth the effort...
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    this is not correct
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    What a load of bollocks. This isn't mixing. This is processing indiscriminately and louderizing.

    Mixing involves fader moves and automation at the very least. Good gain staging? Not in this example.

    I can hear the clipping and the slammed bus compressor (1176???). Red lights going off everywhere. This is a problem.

    For fuck sakes. You would do the world a better service by taking down this video which only really shows what's wrong with "mixing" today. If your goal was to show us what NOT to do, then job done.

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    Toguro,
    welcome to The Womb

    maybe you could tell us about yourself and why you're here and what sort of discussion interests you, rather than just posting a video like that.

    A little easy youtube search would turn up CLA himself talking his way through a demonstration of those plug ins and in it you'd see that he doesn't slam the inputs or outputs into clipping like that.

    In fact, those plug ins (while quite heavy handed in their 'fingerprint'), can be very useful sometimes and definitely have a 'thing'.

    But it's also important to apply some of your own taste (and often examine the original intent of the recording) rather than just blindly over processing everything because you CAN.

    As others have pointed out (with varying degrees of helpfulness) clipping in the box never sounds good. And here's really no REASON for it.
    And even more so those plug ins REALLY don't sound good when clipping.
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    I tried a demo of the CLA signature plugs a while ago, I can see how some people would like them for certain things, but I did not like them at all. After using them on a handful of instruments, the ones without them started to sound out of place. I tried a mix or two with using them on everything, and I first I thought cool - an easy way to get a sound closer to modern commercial pop/rock.

    Then I took them off and realized just how hyped and unnatural they sounded. I guess if you have the discipline to use them sparingly and tastefully they could be cool, but I also see them as an easy way for some newer mixers to get lazy and comfortable with a 'mix by presets' approach.
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    Toguro,
    welcome to The Womb

    maybe you could tell us about yourself and why you're hear and what sort of discussion interests you rather than just posting a video like that.

    A little easy youtube search would turn up CLA himself talking his way through a demonstration of those plug ins and in it you'd see that he doesn't slam the inputs or outputs into clipping like that.

    In fact, those plug ins (while quite heavy handed in their 'fingerprint'), can be very useful sometimes and definitely have a 'thing'.

    But it's also important to apply some of your own taste (and often examine the original intent of the recording) rather than just blindly over processing everything because you CAN.

    As others have pointed out (with varying degrees of helpfulness) clipping in the box never sounds good. And here's really no REASON for it.
    And even more so those plug ins REALLY don't sound good when clipping.
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    I do not recognize you. What have you done with Weedy? And where are you holding him?
    Weedy's been taken by aliens. He's up there in orbit, chilling with Whitley Strieber's old pals.

    They will return him as soon as they're done probing his rectum.


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    No wonder I got his pants.
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    No wonder I got his pants.
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    I've seen many people clip their master bus because their monitors aren't loud enough.
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    Hi everyone,
    I'd like to hear your thoughts about this (especifically for mixing, rather than mastering):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-system

    http://mixcoach.com/metering-episode-85/
    http://mixcoach.com/insert-title-podcast-episode-86/
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    It's bollocks.

    Show us the list of enviable records he's mixed and then I'll pay attention.
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    It's bollocks.

    Show us the list of enviable records he's mixed and then I'll pay attention.
    Ah, but the kids love it (even if they don't understand how to actually calibrate anything or put it into practice).

    I laugh my balls off at all these nerds nowadays imagining they are calibrating their plugins to VU levels. Still, I guess it distracts them from the fact they haven't the talent or artistic vision to actually get around to making some music
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    Toguro,
    welcome to The Womb

    maybe you could tell us about yourself and why you're here and what sort of discussion interests you, rather than just posting a video like that.

    A little easy youtube search would turn up CLA himself talking his way through a demonstration of those plug ins and in it you'd see that he doesn't slam the inputs or outputs into clipping like that.

    In fact, those plug ins (while quite heavy handed in their 'fingerprint'), can be very useful sometimes and definitely have a 'thing'.

    But it's also important to apply some of your own taste (and often examine the original intent of the recording) rather than just blindly over processing everything because you CAN.

    As others have pointed out (with varying degrees of helpfulness) clipping in the box never sounds good. And here's really no REASON for it.
    And even more so those plug ins REALLY don't sound good when clipping.
    I was truly hoping this person was going to respond.

    However it seems it was some troll nonsense.

    What upsets me most is this brought out what I can only describe as an insightful and polite response from William.
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