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    Default What happened to ISPs' enforcement obligations, Again?

    I keep wanting to argue that piracy is a legal challege, not just a technological one, but I'm missing the cornerstone.
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    Default Re: What happened to ISPs' enforcement obligations, Again?

    Yeah, what happened to the carrier's voluntary agreement to send out infringement notices? I haven't heard much about that recently.
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    Default Re: What happened to ISPs' enforcement obligations, Again?

    It's possible that all of the flattering press about how Spotify and its brothers have greatly diminished music piracy really took the pressure off the ISPs.
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    Default Re: What happened to ISPs' enforcement obligations, Again?

    This is something that happened/ didn't happen quite a while ago shortly after the advent of the DMCA.

    Bob knows the specifics; but the gist of it is that the ISPs agreed to "meet specific requirements" which would have req'd ISPs to crack down on piracy sites; in return, the ISPs would be indemnified against copyright prosecution through a safe harbor.

    The ISPs then reneged on the cracking down on piracy part since they benefit from piracy. They can charge more for internet service because it comes with "free" music and movies. I don't know why they didn't lose their safe harbor.

    DMCA Title II, the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act ("OCILLA"), creates a safe harbor for online service providers (OSPs, including ISPs) against copyright infringement liability, provided they meet specific requirements.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digita..._Copyright_Act
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    Default Re: What happened to ISPs' enforcement obligations, Again?

    This is something that happened/ didn't happen quite a while ago shortly after the advent of the DMCA.

    Bob knows the specifics; but the gist of it is that the ISPs agreed to "meet specific requirements" which would have req'd ISPs to crack down on piracy sites; in return, the ISPs would be indemnified against copyright prosecution through a safe harbor.

    The ISPs then reneged on the cracking down on piracy part since they benefit from piracy. They can charge more for internet service because it comes with "free" music and movies. I don't know why they didn't lose their safe harbor.

    Perhaps because nobody brought legal action against them for not holding up their end of the bargain?

    They should do it just because they're nice people?

    Well, yes, they should - but they're not.
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    Everything is some mixture of awesome and suck. We simply want the awesome to be highlighted sufficiently that it distracts listeners from the suck.
    Originally Posted by Bob Ohlsson
    The appropriate role for science is the study of observed phenomena to gain an understanding. It is not dictating what people ought or ought not to be observing.
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