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    Default Should you copyright before it get's played live?

    I was curious as to how important (if at all) it was to make sure you had copyrights on a song before you played it out live.

    I just started playing with some guys last month. The set list is their first album and a couple of covers. I suggested rather than adding a couple more covers to fill out a longer set, throw in a couple of the new songs to see what kind of reaction they get. They are working on another album, so they've got a handful decent ones to chose from.
    You'd have thought I asked them to jump off a building ... and the reason was they didn't have copyrights on the songs yet. That was a huge risk in their mind.

    Their audiences right now are their moms, wives and the fairly disinterested bartender. I couldn't have imagined that being an issue. But I didn't know one way or the other so I said okay and moved along.
    It struck me as odd. Seemed really unlikely to be an issue, but maybe there's something to it? I was wondering what you guys thought.

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    I should add that I understand you own the rights to that song the moment you create it. This is more about the worry to have it registered with the .gov
    Should you be worried about getting that done before you put a song into your set.

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    Where would it be being played? What type and size venues? What are the odds of a video of the performance showing up on Youtube or a local TV broadcast?
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    The next couple of shows are at local bars. One might draw 5-10 people (outside family/friends). The other is a little bigger, might draw 15-20?

    Given the prevalence of phones with video and the ease of posting it, I'll give that at least a 50/50 chance. Local TV broadcast ... not likely. Perhaps if there was a riot to get me off stage or something??

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    The next couple of shows are at local bars. One might draw 5-10 people (outside family/friends). The other is a little bigger, might draw 15-20?

    Given the prevalence of phones with video and the ease of posting it, I'll give that at least a 50/50 chance. Local TV broadcast ... not likely. Perhaps if there was a riot to get me off stage or something??

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    Under those circumstances I don't think it's all that important. However somebody else may know more.
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    Thanks John

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    People should be happy to have somebody actually have a hit with one of your uncopywritten songs.

    Because A. It ain't gonna happen.

    buy a powerball ticket instead, your odds are better.
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    You can copyright collections of songs as one ifem to save cost.
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    People should be happy to have somebody actually have a hit with one of your uncopywritten songs.

    Because A. It ain't gonna happen.

    buy a powerball ticket instead, your odds are better.
    Agreed... it seemed kind of misguided. But I'm hardly an authority so I thought I'd check my sanity first.

    These guys are interesting for sure. Early 20's, well intended, but they definitely got issues with putting their world tour before the horse. For instance... neither of them have a tuner pedal in their chain. They literally have 10k worth of guitars, amps and effects (the guitarist talked his parents into busting his college fund, idiot) but neither of them have a tuner pedal.
    They share a Snark at practice and typically play way out of tune live. But I've come to like them.

    It's fun trying to help them see where they are spinning their wheels. I get to apply the theory I'm learning here and watch it help them. Hopefully all of us are benefiting form it.
    ...and they haven't cough on to how bad I am on bass, so that's nice.

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    These guys are interesting for sure. Early 20's, well intended, but they definitely got issues with putting their world tour before the horse. For instance... neither of them have a tuner pedal in their chain. They literally have 10k worth of guitars, amps and effects (the guitarist talked his parents into busting his college fund, idiot) but neither of them have a tuner pedal.
    They share a Snark at practice and typically play way out of tune live. But I've come to like them.

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