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    I can't say why, but I can testify that we've had computers that were running fine, that were cycled for some reason and didn't come back. Enough to make me nervous with older machines.
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    All hard drives seem to fail eventually. If you start to hear a strange noise or some other anomaly, you'd better have already backed up anything important.
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    Whatever isn't stored in 3 different places doesn't exist at all.
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    Whatever isn't stored in 3 different places doesn't exist at all.
    Never worry. The NSA has a backup service that has been running for many citizens for a while now. I wonder how a copy can be ordered from them, should your drives fail...
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    Never worry. The NSA has a backup service that has been running for many citizens for a while now. I wonder how a copy can be ordered from them, should your drives fail...
    Put them on Hillary's email server. Then you can retrieve them from any major news outlet.
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    The Brauner tube mics, in my experience, are some of the most sonically affected by the warmup process. I literally thought the first Valvet mic I used was broken, at first.


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    The Brauner tube mics, in my experience, are some of the most sonically affected by the warmup process. I literally thought the first Valvet mic I used was broken, at first.


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    All hard drives seem to fail eventually. If you start to hear a strange noise or some other anomaly, you'd better have already backed up anything important.
    yup. learned that about a year ago. had to lacie drives full of sessions that worked fine right up until i put them in storage. just recently took them out to mess with an older session, the lights came on but didn't spin up. they were, i wanna say, 6-7 years old, but never banged up or anything.

    i wonder if the ssd's will be better since theres no moving parts (or a lot fewer?). all i know is that they're dead silent, so there can't be that many.

    i guess that clears up my question. its just my first time getting outboard stuff for my own setup, and after a few hours, they can both get pretty hot.

    having said that, are there any special considerations to make with transformer gear in a rack situation? for instance, like keeping it away from other types of gear, hard drives, etc?
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    yup. learned that about a year ago. had to lacie drives full of sessions that worked fine right up until i put them in storage. just recently took them out to mess with an older session, the lights came on but didn't spin up. they were, i wanna say, 6-7 years old, but never banged up or anything.

    i wonder if the ssd's will be better since theres no moving parts (or a lot fewer?). all i know is that they're dead silent, so there can't be that many.

    i guess that clears up my question. its just my first time getting outboard stuff for my own setup, and after a few hours, they can both get pretty hot.

    having said that, are there any special considerations to make with transformer gear in a rack situation? for instance, like keeping it away from other types of gear, hard drives, etc?
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    My very cursory understanding is that ssd are more reliable, but if they fail you're a little more fucked if you've not backed up. But I've put almost no research into that...
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    My very cursory understanding is that ssd are more reliable, but if they fail you're a little more fucked if you've not backed up. But I've put almost no research into that...
    You're right. AFAIK there is no forensic rescue of an SSD. And then I found this.
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    yup. learned that about a year ago. had to lacie drives full of sessions that worked fine right up until i put them in storage. just recently took them out to mess with an older session, the lights came on but didn't spin up. they were, i wanna say, 6-7 years old, but never banged up or anything.

    i wonder if the ssd's will be better since theres no moving parts (or a lot fewer?). all i know is that they're dead silent, so there can't be that many.

    i guess that clears up my question. its just my first time getting outboard stuff for my own setup, and after a few hours, they can both get pretty hot.

    having said that, are there any special considerations to make with transformer gear in a rack situation? for instance, like keeping it away from other types of gear, hard drives, etc?
    In a word (actually two) ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITORS. It's the exact same problem you get with old audio gear that's been stored a few years without being fired up every few months, the caps go bad. The problem is that on most computer gear it's a lot harder to replace bad caps due to the widespread use of SMDs in high density layouts (which makes replacement difficult) and multi-layer PCBs (which can make resoldering impossible.)
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    Very interesting!
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    I'm not sure that they are electrolytic John (and you were talking about something else I know) but SSD's do leak their charge, They do lose their memory of what is stored. Yah people say don't worry, should outlast HDD etc but...

    (and its kind of a big but, according to what I've read)

    The rate at which they lose data is accelerated if you store them someplace hotter than normal (as in, lose all their data in a few weeks at death valley type temps.) So... no storing on top of the rack that holds your class "A" pres or tube gear, no attics, garage, storage lockers without good climate control, etc.
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    I can tell you that SSD's are not drive options for critical infrastructure in our data center because they deteriorate faster than a mechanical drive. This is a use thing, not a heat thing. The lifespans are supposedly getting better, but we're somewhat adverse to being on the bleeding edge with hardware.

    That said... I'm happy to use them for my OS partition on my primary DAW machine. The speed is awesome.

    Not shilling, but I use Crash Plan as my backup software. You can leverage their cloud space for a fee, or you can use their back up utility to back up to your own drives for free. It's pretty user friendly and I haven't seen anything problems with it on my machine.

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    I'm waiting for the next generation optical storage to become affordable...

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    I'm waiting for the next generation optical storage to become affordable...

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scientists-...-years-1544226

    Wow! Just think of how many tracks you can stack up in a project with THAT!
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