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    Default First mix after putting things back together

    I got my little space *mostly put back together. Haven't recorded anything yet, but I messed around with one of those, download all the tracks and have a go things.

    Seemed to get to this point pretty quickly. I was happy about that. I have to give credit to the recording engineer though. I didn't have to spend much time on any of the tracks. A little compression and eq, that was it. Got to fiddle around with the Butch Vig Vocal plugin a little. The really distorted/screaming part was recorded that way, but I used it on the spoken word parts. It was kind of fun.

    Be interested to see how it stands up to some criticism.
    Burning Bridges-001.mp3

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    Default Re: First mix after putting things back together

    My setup is in the crate but from my internal MBP speakers it sounds really good. Lose a bit of the verb on the vocals. Especially the BVs. Or maybe LP the reverb.

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    The low-end is too shy. The extreme low-end is all right, but I don't hear much between, say. 100 and 250 or so. And too much de-essing on vocals, to the point of lisping.
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    Default Re: First mix after putting things back together

    The BG Vocals were printed with the reverb, so I'm a little stuck there.
    I did experiment with LP filter on the lead reverb and I liked it better. Something I've been told can help, but haven't dove into much yet.

    I tried to find some more oomph in the 100 to 250 area, but what I ended up adding was more in the 200 to 300 range. It was pretty subtle, but it seemed to thicken it up a little.

    Also, thanks on the de-essing. Not something I'm skilled with for sure. I tend to flip through presets until I hear something I like. I still don't have a mastery of the tool I'm using yet, so I'm shy to tweaking it. Tried to do that on this version. Mostly listened for the S to "open up" some. Not clamp it down so much. Be happy to hear what you think about the differences.
    Burning Bridges - 24.7.16.mp3

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    Well, a comment on your comment about the de-essing - the way to achieve mastery of a tool is not to flip through presets. You've gotta put your hands on the "knobs" to really learn how to use the thing.

    I de-ess only rarely (I prefer to try to deal with potential problems of that sort at the microphone when possible, not an option in this case, I know)_, but when I do I'm never confronted with this problem - my de-essers are hardware, no presets.
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    Default Re: First mix after putting things back together

    New version is a definite improvement. Although, I'd still like to hear more "chugg" in palm-mutes, but it doesn't sound thin now. The vocals are also better. Though I wonder if they would work better with less processing. It has this feeling "woah, there's a lot going on to them", which I am not a big fan of (although I might be guilty of doing that too).
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    Default Re: First mix after putting things back together

    Well, a comment on your comment about the de-essing - the way to achieve mastery of a tool is not to flip through presets. You've gotta put your hands on the "knobs" to really learn how to use the thing.

    I de-ess only rarely (I prefer to try to deal with potential problems of that sort at the microphone when possible, not an option in this case, I know)_, but when I do I'm never confronted with this problem - my de-essers are hardware, no presets.
    Agree totally John. I don't meant to suggest I'm trying to avoid it or substitute learning it by using the presets.
    The preset usually says something like, Male - Wide or Female - Narrow, something about General PA. I try to watch what changes between the settings when I flip from one to the other, then correlate the "why" based on the description of the preset. It's not a perfect approach but ...
    From there, I try to twist a knob and listen to it's affect. Just generally move behind the curve on de-essing than some of the other things I've been picking up.

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