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    I do very little mixing (I usually succeed in talking people out of having me mix -- I'm a very big fan of having a second set of ears listening before a project ships). However, I do have to do a little mixing now and then.

    My only reverb has been d-verb. I hate d-verb. The reverb tails sound very digital and choppy. I cringe at the end of an abrupt cutoff, when d-verbs ass-sounding tail is there for all the world to hear.

    I've heard a few Waves reverbs, and they sound much better ... but Waves plug-ins (generally speaking) are a little out of my price range.

    Waves IRL Convo is right at the edge of my price range, but I'm a little reluctant to spend that much on something I won't use, but for the occasional paying work.

    Does anyone have experience with a reverb plug that sounds pretty good and is priced lower? (using a PC w/RTAS plugs).
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    Hey Stu,

    Check out the Classik Studio Reverb suite from IK Multimedia.

    If you own any other IK product it's only $249.00 US.

    Nice selection of 4 classic hardware units.

    http://www.classikstudioreverb.com/Main.html?prod-CSR

    And, check out Ambience: http://magnus.smartelectronix.com/

    It's Freeeeeeeeeeee.
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    Check out the Classik Studio Reverb suite from IK Multimedia.


    And, check out Ambience: http://magnus.smartelectronix.com/

    It's Freeeeeeeeeeee.


    Al is mentioning two very good plugins here. In fact, I have yet to hear any bad plugin coming from IK.

    And Ambience is a very usable reverb. Especially when considering the price tag. It has a nag screen, but hey - donate ten bucks to a fellow countryman of mine willya?!


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    Hehehe,

    Good old D-verb...

    I use it every now and then.

    Gotta love it.

    I've not tried the IK multimedia thing, but if you're using LE, you may consider getting the music production toolkit, where for 500$ you get more tracks, beat detective, tons of other stuff AND TL Space Convolution reverb which I really like.

    For algorhitmic reverb, Reverb one is my choice, but that's not available for LE.

    I'm not that keen on the Waves verb (except IR-1).

    I think the list price for IR-1 was 800, so you'd still get a good deal with the MP toolkit, I think.

    Oh. You were talking about IR-L... Sorry.

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    Al is mentioning two very good plugins here. In fact, I have yet to hear any bad plugin coming from IK.

    And Ambience is a very usable reverb. Especially when considering the price tag. It has a nag screen, but hey - donate ten bucks to a fellow countryman of mine willya?!


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    Ambience rocks for the price

    It's VST, though, so you'd have to get a wrapper. :(

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    Hehehe,

    Good old D-verb...

    I use it every now and then.

    Gotta love it.
    phew ... thank god I'm not the only one then.


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    Ambience rocks for the price
    It's funny, because it has some pretty nifty implementations of standard control parameters, such as the on-board gate (which absolutely can be made to NOT sound like a gate reverb!). Perfect when you want a big/wide space for something like a string pad, but you don't want the chords smearing together like it would with a longer verb.

    I use it all the time for tom rooms and small snare ambiences, but also large spaces sometimes because it has a pretty clean tail.


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    I certainly don't mind getting a vst/rtas wrapper. It'd open up a whole world of value-price plugins...

    I've thought about the music production package -- I could use 48 tracks once in a while -- but I'd think I'd have to update from 6.9 to 7+ (wouldn't I?). Every time I upgrade Pro Tools, I have to drop a couple hundies in hardware.

    They always say the new version will run faster and more efficiently on my existing hardware.

    They always lie.
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    I use the D-Verb plate because I can count on it coming up right when I move from studio to studio. A little eq. on the send can make it sound lots more ok than most people assume.
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    SIR is another reverb to think about. Version 1 is free as well and is an impulse response reverb. If you like version 1, read up on version 2, it costs money but it's not that bad.

    And as I recall when using Ambience, it was a little CPU intensive. Maybe they've since fixed that.


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    Dverb acutally sounds better than waves rverb to me. ymmv. i especially like the plate, and room 2.
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    D-verb is not that bad, it can be very good in certain situations.
    I wouldn't say that there is no other or better choice, but it's definately usable.
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    D-verb is not that bad, it can be very good in certain situations.
    Absolutely!

    One mix in about 15 has a Dverb somewhere, usually the snare drum.

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    I certainly don't mind getting a vst/rtas wrapper. It'd open up a whole world of value-price plugins...
    You're right there. I don't know if any good wrappers exists for PC, but for mac, FXpansion VST to RTAS works like a charm.

    I've thought about the music production package -- I could use 48 tracks once in a while -- but I'd think I'd have to update from 6.9 to 7+ (wouldn't I?). Every time I upgrade Pro Tools, I have to drop a couple hundies in hardware.
    You need at least 7.0 or 7.1 with the MP Toolkit, but IMHO it's a good package.

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    I use the D-Verb plate because I can count on it coming up right when I move from studio to studio. A little eq. on the send can make it sound lots more ok than most people assume.
    Me too Bob, I was using a really short plate today and it worked far better than some of the emt plates I have in MCDSP's Revolver.

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    the MP Toolkit.... IMHO it's a good package.
    I got it too a couple of months ago.

    Makes PT LE almost usable for me as a platform.

    (and I'm only half kidding.)


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    I only have D-Verb

    I knock the top off it almost always, sometimes
    down way low, like 3K ish, sometimes not as low, but almost
    always take a little off the top, like a haircut.
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    Alas, today again, the old D-buddy made it to the mix!



    Pretty low, but still there!

    Actually, Renaissance Reverb made an appearance today as well. That's rare for me these days.

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    I revisited D-verb again. For some reason, I always avoided the plate setting -- don't know why, just making incorrect assumptions. Rolled off some highs, and it sounded pretty damn good.

    Thanks for the input -- it made me look at it again. It doesn't suck.

    I'm still going to invest in a VST wrapper, 'cause there are SO many VST plugins out there (and many are freeeeee...)

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    phew ... thank god I'm not the only one then.


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    You're not. IMHO, given the right circumstances the D-Verb can actually shine...







    Well...


    Not really... But you get my drift. I guess. One can get usable tones from it, and sometimes it's character is *just right* for a track, and every PT studio has one.
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