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    Default Re: MiX iT!#2 - The informal Q&A round

    mixit #1 took way too long - and so thats why nobody voted in the final poll i think.
    We were just going to vote for ourselves anyway... 47-way tie
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    Maybe that's a good point people have raised..

    Examining the mix that was the 'least effective' may highlight
    some basic errors that everyone could learn from?

    As well as 2 outstanding mixes..??
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    hey haven't been around for a while...but yeah Mix it#2 should be cool hehe!
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    (this time around the use of samples will be allowed btw)
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    Even though I didn't participate in the last round - I thought that the lack of samples and editing parts actually allowed for a more transparent assesment of peoples mix techniques and created a more even playing field.

    Maybe we could choose from a group of common samples?
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    But isn't it a truer "real life" scenario to let people use samples? Why impose limitations on people work, which they are not used to have? Actually, I think that the less rules, the more transperant it becomes, what each mixer can achieve.

    If I participate in this one, I will not use samples. But screw the "even playing field" - really. Should we all use the same level of gear too then? The only "just" way of doing it is to let people do it the way they would, if a client came in with the tracks. THAT is true transperancy.
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    Your right - these are all valid points - but if we are to mix in true 'Real Life' scenarios then surely we should include editing / moving and tuning up parts as being permissible as well?

    I'm not really that fussed one way or the other - just looking forward to doing it and I liked the limitations of the previous round - I thought it allowed people to focus on the tracks as they were presented, and that was a great insight.
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    Tuning ain't mixing.


    That's fixing.
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    Do you ever fix....to get a great mix?
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    I am in! Sounds like a much bette format versus listening to 1000 versions of the same tune all the time.

    Sounds like a great thing.

    I am mixing a CAPE tune too, but I am definitely down for this round as well.

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    Tuning ain't mixing.


    That's fixing.
    ...and sample replacement ISN'T? Beat detective? Edits in general?

    Not trying to stir up the nest, honestly. Just interested why the distinction with tuning? Aren't all the above tools about not having secured the right performance/sound in the first place?

    Either way, I'm interested to hear the example where one person feels compelled to sample replace because a sound is unacceptable, and the next person gets a killer sound with the original track (and vice-versa).

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    two ideas:

    1) why don't do it with the best mix of 3 songs, 3 different genres.

    very different each ones, in this way anyone can choose which is the one more near to what usually mix more.

    example: a acoustic song, a rock song, an electronic song.

    three style of mixing the first is more clean, ambient, looking for natural sounding, the second for distortion creativity, acid tones, the third for fat, fast, deep, filtered and humanized, mix.

    2) we can put a 5 dollars subscription and use that to buy a internet space where upload complete sessions (pt, logic, dp, etc sessions) so if someone have the same plug ins and platform, can see exactly the project.
    mix is not a perfect repetition but one that moves slighty forward each time before making it's next resolution...

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    I'd like to do it... if I've got time
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    i want to do me too, so i can win!

    arghhhhhhh nooo don't kill me, i'm kidding
    mix is not a perfect repetition but one that moves slighty forward each time before making it's next resolution...

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    I like the idea of the 3 mixes.

    Not so fond of the idea of samples.

    Even though I didn't participate in the first go-'round, I did lurk and watch and listen. With essentially only the actual tracks to work with, I found that I did have a very level playing field in comparing the work of two different mixers...I think allowing samples (and tuning as well) will cloud the work.

    Just some thoughts...

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    Looking forward to the new event, guys.
    Thanks for doing another. Loads of fun.
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    Do you ever fix....to get a great mix?
    Nope. Not my job when mixing.
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    ...and sample replacement ISN'T?
    I don't do that either, but since so many others wanted to we're allowing it.

    Beat detective? Edits in general?
    Neither of those is mixing either.

    I've never understood the confusion.

    Mixing is mixing.

    Editing is Editing.

    And what does Beat Detective have to do with mixing?

    Why would any1 expect to turn tracks over to a mixer + then expect the mixer to fix problems with the timing or tuning of the instruments.

    That'st not the mixers job. That's not what the mixer has been hired to do.
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    Neither of those is mixing either.

    I've never understood the confusion.
    But who most often performs this procedure?


    Mixing is mixing.
    And that is what an ME is doing, right?


    Editing is Editing.
    And that is, what an EE is doing, or?


    And what does Beat Detective have to do with mixing?
    I still wonder, what profession most often perform this task?


    Why would any1 expect to turn tracks over to a mixer + then expect the mixer to fix problems with the timing or tuning of the instruments.
    Who else to polish the turd?


    That'st not the mixers job. That's not what the mixer has been hired to do.
    Who is then?


    I know, I might be annoying, but really - who else should fix it, if the performance is considered "not good enough" (by the producer - who might again also be the mixer), and the thrash bin is not an option, and retakes are not an option - or are not expected to make a difference anyway?
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    But who most often performs this procedure?



    And that is what an ME is doing, right?



    And that is, what an EE is doing, or?



    I still wonder, what profession most often perform this task?



    Who else to polish the turd?



    Who is then?


    I know, I might be annoying, but really - who else should fix it, if the performance is considered "not good enough" (by the producer - who might again also be the mixer), and the thrash bin is not an option, and retakes are not an option - or are not expected to make a difference anyway?
    To answer all your questions... the answer is NOT the mixer.

    It has never been the mixer.

    It has always been the recording engineer + producer.

    This is so basic, I'm baffled why any1 would EVER think that the mixer's job is to fix the editing.


    I'm done replying... I turn this over to ww, otek, Skyy, or anybody else who wants to reply.


    But I'm pretty sure you must be pulling my leg. I mean come on...
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