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It's simple. Jann Wenner hates Rush; therefore Rush will never be in the "Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame", nor will any other band that Jann Wenner hates.

Somehow, I don't think Rush are shitting bricks over their repeated exclusion. They're too busy making the damn music. And thank fuck for that.
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Still 'twas amusing when AR fired Eagles of Death Metal on stage on their first support show.. (screaming 'pigeons of shit metal' on the mic) though he was probably lucky Josh Homme wasn't playing (with EODM) on that tour..
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GnR gets inducted, but Rush is left out?

Oh I was *so* waiting for somebody to say this, thank you!


You see, the point of a Hall of Fame is to generate ticket, merchandise and special event revenue off the fame, notoriety or draw of celebrities without actually having to pay them for appearances.

Can't afford to book Justin Beiber for a concert? No problem! Just open a "Teenie-Fag Hall of Fame" and put up pictures of him, people will come in droves to pay their respects.

So, understanding that a "Hall of Fame" is simply a revenue opportunity, you can see that there is no agreed-upon standard for inclusion or exclusion and each "Hall" determines their own criteria. Usually that means that whoever the owner of the facility likes is in, and everyone else is out.

Musical tastes being what they are it boils down to the "chocolate ice cream" argument. Some folks like chocolate, some folks don't. Both opinions are equally valid because it's a subjective taste question.

I'd personally rather stuff shooter marbles up my urethra than listen to 2 Rush songs in a row because I put them into the same category of "music I hate" as Celine Dion and Yngwie Malmsteen. But hey, if you dig the Queens of Canadian Pussrock then more power to ya, dawg.

But to say "Well GnR is in the Hall of Fame but Rush isn't?" is like saying, "Chocolate is on your list of favorite ice creams but Butter Pecan isn't?" If you want Butter Pecan on the list, make your own goddamn list. Yours will be just as gay as mine, but at least it'll make you happy.
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I just think G-n-R's body of work isn't big enough.....you don't put a guy in the baseball HOF for only playing a couple of years...

2 albums, (I count Use Your Illusions as one record since both albums came out the same day), a cover record, an EP of outtakes and a monstrosity that took 15 years to make is not enough to qualify for HOF statis.....Chicago had 13 platinum selling albums and Rush 14 platinum albums.....THAT's a HOF body of work.....
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THAT's a HOF body of work.....
But doesn't that beg the question: "what are the criteria?"

Let's forget the "R&R" qualifier for a moment... how do they pick the artists, and how many artists in there are perhaps not even close to licking the shoes of other artists who didn't make the "cut"?

(I mean this as a comment way beyond G&R or Rush BTW).

And yes, I do know that music is all about "feel" and "make you do a little dance". Subjective, quoi.


Edit: (and this is meant as an, albeit silly, challenge) Why didn't Jacques Brel make the cut?)
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You guys are all talking about the R&R HOF. It's a successful nomination.


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You guys are all talking about the R&R HOF.
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Oh I was *so* waiting for somebody to say this, thank you!


You see, the point of a Hall of Fame is to generate ticket, merchandise and special event revenue off the fame, notoriety or draw of celebrities without actually having to pay them for appearances.

Can't afford to book Justin Beiber for a concert? No problem! Just open a "Teenie-Fag Hall of Fame" and put up pictures of him, people will come in droves to pay their respects.

So, understanding that a "Hall of Fame" is simply a revenue opportunity, you can see that there is no agreed-upon standard for inclusion or exclusion and each "Hall" determines their own criteria. Usually that means that whoever the owner of the facility likes is in, and everyone else is out.

Musical tastes being what they are it boils down to the "chocolate ice cream" argument. Some folks like chocolate, some folks don't. Both opinions are equally valid because it's a subjective taste question.

I'd personally rather stuff shooter marbles up my urethra than listen to 2 Rush songs in a row because I put them into the same category of "music I hate" as Celine Dion and Yngwie Malmsteen. But hey, if you dig the Queens of Canadian Pussrock then more power to ya, dawg.

But to say "Well GnR is in the Hall of Fame but Rush isn't?" is like saying, "Chocolate is on your list of favorite ice creams but Butter Pecan isn't?" If you want Butter Pecan on the list, make your own goddamn list. Yours will be just as gay as mine, but at least it'll make you happy.
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Max Websters "Universal Juveniles"
Now, there's an album that will never even come close to sniffing the ass of the RRHOF. It's just too fucking brilliant. Kim Mitchell should be as much of a household name south of the 49th as he is above it, IMNTLBFHO (℠ Shotgun).

IIRC there is a Canuckistanian RRHOF, isn't there? Or do the likes of Rush and April Wine merely get badges from the Governor-General? At the very least, do Canadian schoolchildren study Neil Peart or Pye Dubois lyrics as part of the curriculum?
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AHOF Candidate right here....dawg.

That the best you can do? I thought all you Rush fans knew multi-syllabic words and whatnot.
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The thing is, someone must still care about their shit, because it was only a couple years ago I worked a stadium G'n'R show that was pretty much sold out.

(We weren't allowed to LOOK at Axl as he left the stage, and had to be like 40 feet away from his path. I could at least understand the security at the Britney Spears shows, given the number of single tickets sold to middle aged men, but for Axl Rose? WTF!)

At any rate, I'm not a fan, but someone must be, given how many people will still come see them play, even without the actual band being there.


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That's been the deal from the very beginning. A bunch of folks I know put untold hours into the project only to have Jann move to New York and then auction everything they'd done off as a tourist trap to the highest bidding city.
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I think Axl realizes the Rock and Roll hall of fame is stupid
I mean what serious rocker like Axl would want to be affiliated with like likes of Bruce Springsteen Tom Petty and Abba??
that is not rock and roll

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I mean what serious rocker like Axl would want to be affiliated with like likes of Bruce Springsteen Tom Petty and Abba??
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I think Axl is just using the GnR rift as an excuse but he really just
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