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Default Re: What Size/Type Space To Glue Reverbs?

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I found a way to do this! in his book Mike Senior (SOS) describes it...

--have a gate as a send fx and send the delayed vox to the gate

--feed the gate's sidechain with the vox

--invert the polarity of the gate return

whenever the vox is present the gate will let through the inverted polarity signal silencing the delayed vox via phase cancellation. When the vox is silent at the end of a phrase the delayed vox breaks thru

how much is cancelled is controlled with the return fader

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I am working on a hip hop song right now and I just may use this technique.
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Default Re: What Size/Type Space To Glue Reverbs?

I think ducking works great for when you want something that stands out as an effect, however there is sometimes also a tendency to make things overly complicated.

On the internets, the most complex and elaborate techniques always win because of the "mystery factor".

In real life, if you put the singer in a reverberant room, there is nothing there to duck anything. You just put the mic closer to the singer, so that the reflections are softer than the "dry" voice.


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Default Re: What Size/Type Space To Glue Reverbs?

do you really see that as complex?

anyway, remember what I was after was letting only the last bit of each phrase out like in the Owl City song I posted earlier in the thread

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Default Re: What Size/Type Space To Glue Reverbs?

I"m not convinced that track has a ducking delay.

two other alternatives are to make a track of just the words you want delayed as a trigger for the delay

OR, to simply ride the delay return or send manually (and automate it)
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two other alternatives are to make a track of just the words you want delayed as a trigger for the delay
now that does sound like a lot of work

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we tried that and it was difficult to get it smooth enough
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do you really see that as complex?
Well, to ME, if you want delay on the last words only, the intuitive way would be what Weedy suggested - automating the delay send, which does seem a little more straight forward.

However, since you've obviously tried that unsuccessfully, I see nothing wrong with also trying other techniques.

But like Weedy I am not entirely convinced there is a ducking delay on that track, either.


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Default Re: What Size/Type Space To Glue Reverbs?

for just the odd phrase like that...C&P a copy the desired vocal into position on a new track
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