Poor Old Autotune!!!!

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by Dubnick

A friend of mine who herself is a great writer and performer (http://www.arunamusic.com) actually wrote one of tracks on that record, so if nothing else, the popularity of performers like Hanna Montannah can serve as supplemental income generators for some very strong indie artists that haven't found a larger audience for thier own material yet.

Which song?

Another great example is a band called Edna's Swamp. They wrote "Torn" by Natalie Ambruglia. Massive payday although they were bitter about. You Artists.

[Dubnick]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

Which song?

Another great example is a band called Edna's Swamp. They wrote "Torn" by Natalie Ambruglia. Massive payday although they were bitter about. You Artists.

Not familiar with the whole Hannah Montana thing, but Aruna's site says "I Got Nerve" is the track - I think it was co-write but I didn't ask her too much about. BTW - ironically enough, I actually had sent a link to Aruna's music/site to Shep at the same time I had sent him the link to Jon's stuff and I believe he contacted her if I remember correctly.

That Edna's Swamp version is sooooooooo much better too. I remember them playing it on Stern a long time ago.

[Dubnick]

BTW, the notion that disposable music put out by pre-fabricated "artists" who owe much of thier "sound" to studio trickery is somehow new or the fault of technologies like Autotune or Beat Detective seems pretty off to me. I mean, if I recall correctly, Al Kooper, who went on to do some pretty great things musically (organ on "Like A Rolling Stone", organ and french horn on "Can't Always Get What You Want", founding Blood, Sweat & Tears, signing and producing Lynyrd Skynyrd, etc), got his professional start playing guitar in just such a scenerio (The Royal Teens - Short Shorts is thier claim to fame) waaaaaay back in the day. Just a thought.

[Bob Olhsson]

Nobody is arguing that cheating hasn't been around forever. The problem is that the good stuff seems to be doing lots worse commercially than at any time in memory and the audience is yawning and no longer very passionate about music. It's easy to blame the public, the labels, or if you are more knowledgeable, radio or the advertising biz.

It's just that blame doesn't expose and then connect an audience with truly compelling new music that transcends fads, style, fashion or genres. Our industry ate its young and we need to start over from the very beginning.

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson

Our industry ate its young and we need to start over from the very beginning.

I couldn't agree more.

Except this dying industry won't just die already. They keep clinging and adapting and clinging and re-adjusting.

Until it all really caves in, it will just keep getting worse.

More and more disposable.

It's not economically viable for the money guys to just start over.

[spence]

I hate even the idea of auto-tunning vocals but gotta eat so I fix the crap. So thanks Autotune and now Melodyne for helping me do that.

I really dig the Turn Me Up idea. Maybe real singers should place this on their albums: Don't Tune Me Up! To preserve the integrity of a professional music performance by real singers, the vocals on this album were intentionally not auto-tuned. I'm a real singer. Don't Tune Me Up! Or at least put it somewhere on the album.

Milli Vanilli got busted and folks stopped listening to that crap. Real singers should raise the awareness. Maybe the listener would second guess albums not having the don't tune me up label.

[Immanuel]

Originally Posted by otek

Yeah, she had at least one huge hit in Sweden as a solo artist, back in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LJYhwe58bs

(I don't know of anyone here who hasn't heard this tune)


otek

The other song from the same single is a huge hit within a group of adults with acquired brain damage, whom I sometimes work with.

[nobby]

Originally Posted by Immanuel

a group of adults with acquired brain damage

I'd appreciate it if you refrain from mentioning us by name.

Thanks in advance.

[Kenny Gioia]

My Domination has Begun.

Click Here

Enjoy.

[CaptainHook]

HAHAHAHAHHHHA

[Slipperman]

Kenny.

It's gonna take that 11 man surgical team a week to get my shoe outta yer fucking nutsack.

SM.

[mykllynyrd]

mmmmmm, AT artifacts, yum-my!

[Kenny Gioia]

OK.

That was a bit drastic.

These two you can barely hear it.

Beatles Improved #2

Beatles Improved #3

Enjoy.

[Slipperman]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

OK.

That was a bit drastic.

These two you can barely hear it.

Beatles Improved #2

Beatles Improved #3

Enjoy.

What? No BD of the backing tracks?

SHODDY PRODUCTION!!!!

We need ROBOTS!!!! ALL ROBOTS in the BeatDetectiles!!!!.

ROBOTGO STARR.

GEORGE HARRISYNC

Destroy Music Kenny.

It is your life's mission to lead a pie-eyed, ham-handed passel of clinically deaf loomers into quantized glory.

Then you can return to your real love....


Your massive collection of automated sand conditioning machinery.


Robert Moses will never be cleaner.

SM.

[tannoy]

Uuuh yeah, I've been waiting for this moment to come sooo long...the bathroom sessions...myths were ranking about this recording, I'm pretty sure you all have read and heard about this here and there but it's been a secret legend - till now! Kenny is a lucky man and will earn a lot of money with that!

If I remember it right, the Beatles were part of extraordinary drinking olympics at Paul McCartneys home some night. Due to sudden brain loss they missed the recording date which was on the schedule the next day. Sir George, spontaneous as always, knew where to find his fellas and decided to push the record button anyway - weaponed with his self built and to that date untested sink-microphone he conquered Paul's bathroom, following by instinct the typical after-drink-sounds coming out of there.

Experienced to the fact that uncertain conditions sometimes result in awesome recordings, he convinced the guys to record the vocals right there in the bath with his new invention.

"So what the fuck is this dildo thing with that kind of knob on the top in your hand, fucking Sir ?" Paul asked. "This is my new invention, a sink microphone, especially built for purposes like these - and by the way, it's built by me..." Sir George replied. "Nice, ssssink - mmmmicro, ssss-mmci,sss,mmm, smmmm, sm, yeah, that's what I'll call it, sm, can't spell the other shit right now - do what you want, man!"

So Sir George pushed the record button on his 10" tape 4-track multitrack telefunken recorder which was driven by 3 car batteries for easy transportable purposes and told the carriers to get out of the bath, their gasping would ruin the recording.

The vocals where recorded while the band where brushing their tooth - to be exactly, at their gargling moment. Sir George was thinking of this as the only moment when the human voice reaches the ultimate emotion and he wanted to capture it, no matter what. It turned out that this would be a hard job and it took a lot of takes to achieve that goal - the vocals could not be tracked in one take due to vomit-interruptions by the performers. Finally, Sir George took his pen and made a note on the track-sheet :"Used Microphone:SM, Takes:57".

As the band went sober, they asked to hear the recordings made some days ago, not clearly remembering that there has been any recording session at all. Sir George played it to them. They were looking down on their toes. "So, we're all great singers and performers", George began, "but this sucks definitely. It can't be us, because we're great - it's your fucked up microphone, sounds like crap! No one must ever hear this!"

Sir George was disappointed and decided to give the tapes away together with his microphone invention, went to the city and was looking for a tramp who seemed desperately in need for something of such worth. Finally he found somebody real wrecked up and gave the stuff to him, saying:"I hope it'll bring more luck to you than it did to me..." The man looked into Sir Georges eyes and replied :"Shure it will, man, shure...enjoy!" "Enjoy ?" Sir George was thinking about this word and the sense of it in that moment but couldn't get it and watched that man tumble away, the ying-yang symbol on his jacket disappeared in the sunset...

Till now no one had ever thought, that this legend was the truth - but Kenny's got the prove that it is! And I thank you Kenny for making this awesome recordings available for us here. And I thank the other guy who gave it to you, too! People say, he was sick of listening to it, because the vox were out of tune.

I've heard the tracks 5 times in a row now, nothing seems out of tune to me - which proves that a good performance and emotion is worth much more than today's technique.

Congratulations again, you really have something there!



All the best,

Tannoy.